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All right. You're real good, Al. Thank you for that.

All right. The net would like to acknowledge Peter, KJ7BA. Good morning, Peter.

Good to have you with us. See you there on the Utah SDR. And Peter says good morning to everyone.

So good contact there. All right, Peter, real good. Yep, got a note here from Carol, KK7TPO.

She says, "I just got home from camping this morning." All right, Carol. "My radio is not set up. I'm just listening today." Carol, we got you checked in and glad to have you along as a listener and glad you got home safely from your camping trip.

That is wonderful. All right, WB7MX here, looking for check-ins. We're getting close to start time.

Please come out to your call sign. WS7SAB and Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, good morning. There they are, Sandy, WS7SAB and Beck, Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee.

Good to have you guys. How are you doing, Beck? Good.

I'm doing pretty good. Got some extra sleep yesterday that I obviously needed. And feeling great.

I've still got the same problems, but time will tell. Roger? Yeah, copy that.

So anyway, glad you got some sleep. Missed you yesterday, but I'm glad you were sleeping. That was the right choice to make.

So we need you healed up, and sleep is incredibly important for healing. I got a note here. on the net logger from KD7ES that it is spelled Sheelan.

C-H-E-L-A-N. That's good. Hey, we guessed right, Mark.

So we win the spelling bee according to KD7ES. All right, real good. Any other check-ins, please come now.

KM5F. And there's Will, KM5F. Good morning, Will.

How you doing? Oh, doing okay. A little tired.

Good morning. It's been so hot here that some of the people in the hot pools have been going into the hot pools to cool off because they're slightly cooler than the air temperature. And the swimming pool, which is 80 degrees, they really enjoy that because it's almost 20 degrees below the air temperature, KM5S.

That is really hilarious, yeah. So the swimming pool is at 80 degrees and it's 20 degrees cooler than the outside temperature. And even the Osprings are cooler than the air temperature.

That's amazing. Alright, well, real good. Appreciate that.

And we got you all checked in, Will, KM5F. Alright, hey Will, you want to do some scripture reading for us? Sure, I can try.

Okay, I'm fine with that. All right, we are in Psalm 35, Psalm 35, so if you want to read that for us when the time comes, that would be great. Okay, I'm fine with that.

All right, real good. Thank you for that, Will. All right, we are about ready to get started here.

It's just about 30 seconds. Any more check-ins, please come now. Go for your B7VZL.

Good morning. All right, there is Roger, WB7VZL. Whenever Roger checks in, we know that it's about time to get started.

Roger, thank you for being there. Any prayer requests, go ahead. Well, a praise.

Thank you for your prayers for the memorial service. I felt like the Spirit of God was moving through the passage of the Scripture, and I invited anyone that had not signed up in the Book of Life to do that, and they can do that now. All right.

Copy that. Well, real good. I'm glad the memorial service went well.

Praise the Lord for that answer to prayer. And Al, KJ7QQH, let's just pray that Roger's words will stick in the minds of those who were at the memorial service yesterday, and that God would be pleased to use it to save his people. Copy that, Al?

Good copy. All right, real good. Good copy.

Okay. So we're finding out more about Chelan. Chelan is east of Seattle, northwest of Wenatchee.

So anyway, thank you for that, Eric. Appreciate that information. That's from Eric, KD70S.

All right, any other check-ins before we get started? It's time. All right, we got Lee, AL7KG.

Good morning, Lee. How are you doing? All right, Lee, wasn't able to copy everything that you said.

If that's a prayer request, just go ahead and text message me. and I'll bring that before the net. That's Lee, AL7KG.

We got you checked in. All right. I want to give a call out to Tom, WW7T.

Tom, WW7T, are you there on your radio? I All right, not hearing from Tom. Hopefully he's either sleeping or listening, but anyway, we'll be praying for him later on.

All right, WB7MX here. We are ready to get started with the West Coast Bible Study. We are in Psalm 35 today, and so we'll be looking at that psalm, very interesting psalm.

But before we do, we want to open in prayer. And so, Kevin, KB7ZXN, if you could open in prayer for us, I'd appreciate that. Okay, very good, Max.

Wonderful to hear everyone this morning. KB7, Zedek Sin. With eyes closed and heads bowed, let us pray.

Our most gracious and loving Father, we do most humbly thank you for all your many blessings, allowing us to come together this day to look into your word, Lord. We pray that our hearts be open to receive it. Lord, give us understanding.

Guide us by your wisdom and not our own. Lord, give us the faith we need to turn away from temptation and sin and walk upright with you. Father, we thank you for hearing each of the prayers that we lift up this day and the prayers that we carry with us and burden us each day that we see so much need around us from basic things in so many people's lives to major challenges.

and we know you're there for all. Father, we thank you for that study of these psalms as well. Lord, let it enrich our lives and help us grow in strength and faith.

Jesus, we pray these things in your holy name. Amen. Amen.

Thank you so much, Kevin, for that prayer. Really appreciate that. All right, we are in Psalm 35.

Will's going to be reading for us here in a minute. But I want to give a little introduction to Psalm 35. This is one of the so-called imprecatory psalms in the Bible.

This is the first one we've come to in our reading. And what an imprecatory psalm is, is it's a calling upon God for justice against those who have grossly violated justice. And this psalm addresses one of the saddest and the most heart-wrenching expressions or experiences of the Christian life that we can ever have.

It addresses the experience of betrayal by those that David had trusted and served with all of his heart. And to have those that you've loved and served and trusted. turn against you without a cause, to have them hate you and seek to destroy you, to have them rejoice at your difficulties, to have them cut you to pieces with their slander and gossip.

This hurts beyond any ability to ever express with words, and it fills you with righteous anger. David was dealt with after this fashion by Saul as you recall David had trusted and loved and served Saul only to have Saul slander him and seek to kill him and we read about that in 1 Samuel 24 furthermore David was dealt with after this fashion by his own son Absalom and we read about that in 2 Samuel 15 after raising Absalom loving him forgiving him Absalom spent the next 40 years seeking to destroy his own father with slanders and betrayal, and ultimately Absalom led a national rebellion and war against David and sought to kill him. And then finally David was dealt in this fashion by his chief counselor Ahithophel.

And we read about Ahithophel in 2 Samuel 16. David had trusted Ahithophel, promoted him, and yet he betrayed David and joined with Absalom. And he counseled Absalom to sleep with David's concubines, and he counseled Absalom to let him take 12,000 men to attack and kill David.

So each of these events, whether it was Saul, or whether it was Absalom, or whether it was Ahithophel, and doubtless there were many more in David's long history, each of these events filled David with grief and anguish and with a grossly violated sense of justice. He had done all of these people nothing but good, and they hated him without a cause. They returned evil for good.

They falsely accused him, and they cursed the one who had blessed them. Now, the reaction to such treatment is one of profound grief and also one of righteous anger at the enormity of the injustice and the betrayal and disloyalty that had been expressed. And, of course, the danger that we face in such situations when these things happen to us is we want to go get revenge.

We want to strike out at those who have struck out against us. We want to hurt people who have hurt us in a word. We want to get revenge.

And we can't go there. Betrayal can generate bitterness, and bitterness can generate hatred, and hatred can lead to acts of vengeance. But what we have to do is realize God says, "Vengeance is mine.

I will repay, sayeth the Lord." And you know that phrase, vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord, occurs seven times in the Bible. It's in Deuteronomy 32, it's in Psalm 94, it's in Nahum chapter 1, it's in Hebrews chapter 10. And so over and over again we're told, if you've been treated unjustly, you put that into my hands, God says, and I will deal with it.

And so, you know, under ordinary circumstances, right, when someone has wronged us by sinning against us, we go to them and we tell them their sin, we seek reconciliation with them, and we try to work it out. But sometimes situations proceed far beyond that. There's such hostility and there's such a hardening of the heart, there's such an enmity that even communication is impossible, much less reconciliation.

And so their hatred for us is without a cause. The harm being done by them is without any rational explanation. Their attempt to further injure us is pursued with malice and conscious intent.

They're on a campaign to destroy us. They constantly attack us more and more. And the question is, what can you do in a situation like that?

Well, one thing you can't do is you can't do to them what they're doing to you. That would be to sin like they're sinning. We can't get vengeance for ourselves.

We can't turn around and start attacking them. All we can do is what David does in this psalm, and that is ask God to defend us and ask God to deliver us and ask God to take vengeance. And so in a word, what this psalm is is a cry to God for justice.

It's a cry to ask God to deal with them and to stop them and defeat them and to fight against them. We know that God is the judge, so we can plead our cause and case before Him, point out to Him the injustice that's been done to us, ask Him to judge our cause. and pass sentence on it and give us the release that we need.

This is what David is doing in this psalm, okay? He never took vengeance himself. He simply asked God to give him justice, and that's what we have to do.

Well, that's a little extended explanation of the background of this psalm, but I thought it was necessary because what David's praying here can sound hateful, but really what it is is a plea for justice. All right. So, Will, Keel Mike 5 Foxtrot, if you could read for us Psalm 35, I would appreciate that.

Go ahead, brother. K and 5F. The hang I have here is prayer for rescue from enemies.

I'll be reading out of the NAFC 95. And I noted that what he starts out doing here, he's actually asking God, he says, Put on the armor as in Ephesians 6. Let's get started here.

Contend, O Lord, with those who contend with me. Fight against those who fight against me. Take hold of buckler and shield.

I have a problem here. Take hold of buckler and shield and rise up for my help. Draw also.

the spear and battle axe to make those who pursue me. Say to my soul, I am your salvation. Verse 4.

Let those be ashamed and disillusioned to keep my life. Let those be turned back and humiliated who devise evil against me. Let them be like chaff before the wind, with the angel of the Lord driving them on.

Let their way be dark and slippery, with the angel of the Lord pursuing them. For without cause behind their net for me, that cause they give a hit and I fall. Let their, let destruction come upon them, Unaware, and let their net lift the hits at the snow, and do that very destruction without love and thought, It's not a hit.

and my soul shall rejoice in the Lord which shall be brought with his salvation all my bones will say Lord who is like you who delivers the wicked from him who is strong for him and the afflicted and the needy from him who robs them verse 11 malicious witnesses arise up They asked me of things that I do not know. They repaid me evil for good, to the burning of my soul. But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was set up.

I humbled my soul with fasting, and my prayers kept returning to my believer. I went out, I went about. As though it were my spirit or brother, I bowed down, mourning as one who suffers another.

At fifteen, it is my stumbling, at my stumbling, we rejoiced and gathered themselves together. whom I did not know gathered together against me. They smacked me without reason, like God was tested at a feast.

They gnashed at me with their teeth. Lord, how long will you look on? Thank you, my soul, from their ravages, my only life from their lions.

I thank you. I will give you faith in the great congregation. I will praise you among the mighty strong.

and not let those who are wronged for me, my enemies, rejoice over me, nor let those who cheat me without cause, weak, malicious priests. Verse 20: For they do not seek peace, but they devise deceitful words against those who are quiet in the land. They opened their mouths wide again.

They said, Aha, aha, our eyes have seen it. You have seen it, O Lord. Do not keep silent.

O Lord, do not be far from me. Stir up yourself and awake to my right and to my cause, my God and my Lord. Judge me, O Lord, my God, according to your righteousness.

And do not let them rejoice over me. Do not let them stay in their heart. Aha, our desire.

Do not let them stay with you. Follow them up. Let those be ashamed and humiliated altogether.

So rejoice at my distress. Let those be clothed with shame and dishonor. Remagnify themselves over me.

Let them shout for joy and rejoice. We favor my vindication. And let them say continually, The Lord be magnified.

be blessed in the prosperity of His service. And my tongue shall declare your righteousness and your praise all day long. That brings us to the end of chapter 35.

And bye-bye. Will, thank you so much for that reading. Really appreciate that.

All right, well, that's a difficult passage. You know, any comments on this passage, please come down with your call sign. KB7ZXM.

Kevin, KB7ZXM, please go ahead. Well, thank you, Will, for reading that. And, Max, for the introduction, you covered a lot of ground with it.

And you're right, it is the longest imprecatory prayer, I think, in the Psalms. And it's a different tone than what we're used to seeing. But also keep in mind it is inspired word of God.

And I think it really is in application what we, and you pointed to this too, read in Romans 12:19 that divisions is the Lord's and you know David dealt with a lot of a lot of wrong done to him as as we sometimes do maybe not to the extent that David did but there are those that would like to destroy all that you do, especially in the name of God and for His will, according to His will. The enemy is always out there. And, you know, sometimes the offenses against the innocent or those doing God's will are punitive and not rehabilitative.

Now, God, repentance, God, the evidence is God always responds to true repentance. And sometimes those you least expect can certainly be saved. But sometimes there is offenses and evil so heinous that it is hard for us.

to not want to respond with vengeance. You know, as a society, we set standards that are punitive. You know, that a crime or something is done that is so depraved, so awful, that we say, no, this is punitive.

But what David here is praying for is divine judgment. Instead of taking matters into his own hand, which would certainly be a temptation. He's trusting in the covenant promise of God and his faithfulness of divine judgment.

And if that judgment is punitive, then let it be. And that's, you know, but he's trusting God with that. KB7 is that acceptable?

Kevin, really well said. Thank you for that. Yeah, you know, you're right.

Sometimes people cross the line to the point that, you know, we're praying for justice more than we are for restoration. You know, when somebody commits first-degree murder, We don't show them mercy. We don't say, "Oh, you know, let's rehabilitate this person.

You know, let's, you know, let them out of jail and have another chance." No, we put them to death. We give them the death penalty. And so, you're right.

Sometimes offenses are so heinous, that they just cry out for punishment, and that's what's going on here. And, you know, Kevin, I can't help but hear an echo of the voice of the Lord Jesus here with reference to the Pharisees and the Sadducees. You know, it is true that when he was being nailed to the cross, he said, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

And I think that prayer was specifically directed to the soldiers. who were nailing him to the cross. And we see that an hour or two later, one of those soldiers actually got saved.

You know, he said, "Truly, this is the Son of God." But as far as the behavior of Caiaphas and Annas and the other Pharisees who were constantly attacking and assaulting Jesus, even in the face of the most amazing miracles. You know, he would cast out a demon, and they would say, oh, he's doing that by Satan, you know, Beelzebub, the prince of the demons. And just vicious, uncalled-for attacks in the face of the greatest kindnesses and goodnesses that he could possibly do in their presence and toward them.

All they wanted to do was destroy him. Well, people like that just need to be destroyed. And so what he's doing here is he's calling out to God to do that.

And so David asked God to side with him against his enemies. And then he rehearses his enemies past dealings with him and his dealings with them. And then he says, "God, you know who I am.

You know who they are. You know what I've done. You know what they've done.

God bring justice." And so you're right, Kevin. There comes a point in time where what we need here is justice. We're no longer looking for reconciliation because it's gone way, way, way past that.

All right. Any other comments? Please come now.

Some more KJ7PVT, go ahead. I am Matt, I'm the manager of all those comments. Um, I remember, I remember the first time that it hit me.

I was reading the Bible years ago that that'd be strong in the future. And I remember being completely taken aback. There will be 15 channels that will be distributed, and I'm going to be receiving things like Captain March versus the Rose and so on and so forth.

the I am looking for the four points. When I'm going through some, I'm beginning to do this more now. The first point is, certainly, what has happened to David because he wrote that and as you have shown greatly outlined all of the different things that were going on and how this all applies to David, uh That's a good story.

and the So we are now in a beautiful view from the podcast. I wish that you could enjoy it with us as it flows. And if you have any questions, please feel free to ask them.

We will be happy to answer them. Thank you. - Mark, that is so helpful.

I really appreciate you sharing that. Mark is coming in real well on my radio today. I hope he is on yours as well.

But he talked about taking four views when you read the book of Psalms. You take the near view. And that is, what was David saying and experiencing when he uttered these psalms?

And what's the application to him? And then the far view, and that is, these psalms are about Christ. What is this psalm saying about Christ?

And then applying it to our time. What does this say about us and to us? And what should our reaction be to it?

And then fourthly, what does this psalm say about the future, what God's going to do with reference to his plan, program, and even the eternal state? So what a great way to read the psalms. And so as we look at this, we see this happened to David.

And as I mentioned, he was betrayed by Saul. He did Saul nothing but good, and Saul wanted to kill him. And you recall, there was a couple of three times when David tried to reconcile with Saul.

He had a chance to kill him, didn't do it. He said, "Hey, you know, here you were in the cave. I cut off a piece of your rope.

or he took his water bottle and said, "Hey, here's your water bottle. We could have killed you." And yet never did Saul ever truly repent of his hatred of David and his desire to destroy him. And ultimately David had to cry out to the Lord and say, "Lord, You take care of Saul." And of course the Lord did.

And then of course we see the application of this to Jesus. And we see that the Lord Jesus could say, "Without cause they hid from me a net in their pit. Without cause they have dug a grave for my soul." And he says, "Lord, they've rewarded me evil for good." When they were sick, I healed them.

And now I'm in distress and they're laughing and rejoicing at me. And then, of course, how does this apply to us? You know, if you've been alive for any length of time and have lived with any kind of integrity, there are people that hate you.

And they do everything they can to destroy you, even though you've done them nothing but good. Sometimes children will turn on their parents. You raised your kids.

You loved your kids. You cared for them. You gave to them endlessly.

And then when they get to be adults, they go off the deep end and start slandering you and saying terrible things about you. This happens in churches. with church splits and those kinds of things.

And, you know, we experienced this kind of betrayal where people who we thought were our friends, people that we've ministered to, we've loved, we've served, suddenly they turn on us, they attack us. And their whole goal is to destroy us with their words and in any way they can. And in those situations, you try to reason with them.

You can't get anywhere. You just say, Lord, it's in your hands. You deal with it.

I'm going to go on and I'm going to minister to others. And I'm just going to let this situation go into your hands. And then, of course, what is the future going to be?

This is really a picture of the final judgment, right? When you see the charges that are brought, when you see the plea for justice that is expressed, what you're seeing here is what's going to happen on the day of judgment, where people's actions are going to be brought before the Lord, the lawsuit, if you will, is going to be laid out, the charges are going to be set forth, and then that judgment is going to be rendered. So, Mark, thank you so much for those four perspectives, the near view, David's life, the far view, what's going on with Christ here, the present view, what's going on in our time, and then the future view, what this tells us about the future.

All right, any other comments? Please come now. KG6J.

Jerry, KG6J, please go ahead. So I'm going to frame this a bit like a question for my own correction if I don't have this right. Verses 13 and 14.

When they were sick. My clothing was sackcloth, and he humbled himself with fasting. So when all these people are wronging him, and he's praying for God to bring him justice, yet is this an illustration of when something happens to them?

He's not glorying in that at all. He's not celebrating that. He's actually sad for them.

And that goes on through verse 14. If I'm reading that right, Casey, did you get it? Yeah, that's exactly right, Jerry.

You got it. What he's saying is that these people were my friends, and when they were sick, I was greatly concerned for them. I prayed for them.

I mourned with them. I behaved myself as a friend would behave, and I mourned with them when they were in sorrow. That's verses 13 and 14.

And then in verse 15, when David was in sorrow, he says, but in my adversity they rejoiced and gathered themselves together. Yea, the abjects gathered themselves together against me. I knew it not.

They did tear me and feast not. Verse 16, with hypocritical mockers and feasts, they gnashed on me with their teeth. So what David is saying here, Jerry, is that when they were sick and they were in sorrow and they were in distress and they were in grief, I was right there alongside them, praying for them, supporting them, mourning with them.

doing what I could to behave as a friend who was supportive in their distress. But when I had distress, instead of supporting me, they turned and increased my distress. And they even rallied other people around to try to join them in attacking me.

And so it's an example, it's an illustration of how he did them good, and they returned evil for good. Back to you there, Jerry. Okay, so it's not referring to God's direction, it's referring to before when they were friends.

Thank you for that clarification. That's exactly right. So he's looking back over the history of their relationship.

And, you know, you've had situations like this where you've been good friends with people, and they had troubles, and you helped them in their troubles. And then as time went on, you had troubles, and they weren't there for you. Not only were they not there for you, they started assaulting you and using your troubles as a way to harm you and take advantage of you and to mock you.

So that's what's going on here. All right, real good, Jerry. KJ6J, other comments, please come down.

Mark, KJ7PVT, please go ahead. Yes, yeah, I was also going to the one place that they also opened the mouth wide against me and said, I've seen it, and that's against Jesus. It kind of worked out for me, but that happened to David.

They went at him and they said, if you go to the book of Ezekiel, You'll see that many countries have federal I'm going to go ahead and turn it off. Yeah, Mark, good comment. Yeah, Mark's focusing on verse 21, how that they looked at David and his troubles, and they had this triumphalist attitude, right?

Oh, he's down now. That's great. And he talks about an Ezekiel where the nations around Israel rejoiced in Israel's downfall, especially Judah's downfall when she was captured by Babylon.

And, of course, people rallied around Jesus. They saw him on the cross, and they were mocking him. Oh, you know, he said that he was the son of God.

Let God come now and save him. and if he's the son of God let him come down from the cross and there was all this mockery right and you know you can really tell who your enemies are by how they respond when you're having hardships in your life and you know um It says, "Rejoice not when your enemy falls, lest the Lord see it, and it displease him." In Proverbs. So, we don't rejoice in the evil that happens to others.

We recognize, okay, there's a point of justice there, but for the grace of God, I would be in that person's place. Even though they deserve to be taken down by God, it's a sad thing that they were. And we wish that it could have been different, but because of their own choices, it can't be.

And so even when God exercises his justice and crushes the wicked, you know, it's a point of grief and sorrow for us. It's not a point of rejoicing and triumphalism. Triumphalism never has a place in the Christian life.

We sorrow over those who have made bad choices, and we just say, well, the will of the Lord be done. But for the grace of God, I would be in that situation. And so we just turn away, and we go back to our worship.

We go back to our ministry. We go back to our witness service. but we don't go back to bragging about how God really nailed that person, that doesn't have a place in our life.

So this aha, aha attitude is one that is universally condemned in the scriptures. Mark, thank you for pointing that out. All right, other comments, please come now.

AK-6, OK. AK-6 OK Jeff, please go ahead. You know, I love in this passage how David is asking God, "Take these people out." And it's my belief that we have the availability of that.

Gosh, how do I say this? To do that as well, to ask God to take out our enemies. And I have availed myself of that many times over my life.

Yeah, well said. And there's nothing sinful about that. You know, here's the deal.

When we first have a conflict with people, you know, we try to do the Matthew 18 thing, right? We go to them and we take two or three more. Maybe we bring it to the church if that's appropriate.

Sometimes it isn't, if they're not Christians or whatever. But, you know, we exhaust avenues of reconciliation. We show ourselves friendly.

We say, okay, look, I want to get this worked out. incorrigible attitude, an attitude that says, no way, I am not going to reconcile with you, you know, basically by their actions, they're saying, I have this undying hostility towards you and I'm going to do all I can to harm and destroy you. Then yes, that's the time, Jeff.

when we say, "Okay, God, you've seen it. You've seen what He's done. You've seen what I've done.

Lord, bring judgment. Bring, as Kevin said, punishment." We're not praying for repentance anymore. We're praying for God's justice to come and for His hammer to fall and for Him to bring justice in the situation.

And that's all Jesus could do, you know. When they were nailing him to the cross, you know, certainly there were some people acting in ignorance there, namely the soldiers. But there were others that were acting in willful malice.

And for them, this prayer was certainly appropriate. I'm I recognize what you've done I've done the same thing myself it's biblical it's legitimate it's proper after we've tried to work it out and it's not going to work out then we just give it into the hands of God and say God you deal with these people and Lord they're beyond me I'm just committing them into your hands And if the evil is egregious enough, we pray for their destruction. If it isn't, we just let them go into the hands of God and let Him deal with them however He sees fit.

And Jeff, thanks for sharing that experience. I too have had that experience. It's a sad day when it comes to that.

We don't want it to come to that. We always want reconciliation. But if reconciliation is impossible because there's an incorrigible a hardened at darkened heart Then you know justice is something that's certainly appropriate to pray for all right other comments, please come out Roger please go ahead Well one of the moments of contemplation was prompted by Jeff, where there are times where you do pray for them to be out of the picture.

I think one of the reasons why I haven't had to come to that point is that I haven't been exposed to such raw mafia extortion scenarios or gangs and the nightlife of a community that is predatory. Like what Haiti, when they lose control, the only -- about the worst thing we've had at the property that we just came from is losing control over our houses with mice and pack rats. the Rat Pack, you know, where they get too many and so order decays.

I'm thinking of Romans 13, you know, when the ministers of the sword are not there. then evil rules. And I have been so spoiled and blessed by the grace of God, I haven't been exposed to such raw evil, either in a corporate sense or in a personal sense in my neighborhood.

But there are neighborhoods in our community here that you know there's particular focuses of the police department to neutralize the the gangs that are always uh threatening it's kind of like the rodent population max over yeah well said and i think that's a great illustration um and so um there is a time and a place to ask for the destruction of those who... You know, it's kind of like dealing with a rabid dog. You know, there's no reconciliation with a rabid dog.

Either he kills you or you kill him. And there's no place for redemption or renewal of relationship. And some people have gotten to that point to where, you know, they're just...

slated for destruction and the sooner the better. You think of somebody like Adolf Hitler. You think of these Muslims that go into these villages in Nigeria and just slaughter the Christians and are proud of themselves for having done it and have every intention of doing it again.

Lord, destroy those people. Lord, you see the evil that they've done. Father, deal with them.

as they have dealt with others. That's a righteous prayer. It's a godly prayer.

It's a prayer that's completely in harmony with Psalm 35. All right, well, we are out of time, and we need to go to prayer. Are there any final prayer requests before we go to the Lord in prayer?

Please come now with your requests. AK6OK with the last comment. AK6OK with your comment.

Please go ahead. Yeah, I want to make sure that everybody understands this is not always a desire to take somebody out as much as it is evil to be taken out. This is what we've faced a lot, not somebody personal.

It's a situation, a spiritual issue going on. often means to take out the agent of that evil. You know, Satan does evil.

We pray for Satan to be defeated and taken out so that his evil can be removed. So sometimes, you know, it's hard to distinguish between the evil that's done and the person that's doing it because without the person doing it, the evil wouldn't exist. So that's why, you know, David says, Do not I hate them that hate thee, O Lord?

I hate them with a perfect hatred. I count them my enemies. And so, you know, there's this distinction that's often made.

We're supposed to hate the sin and love the sinner. You know, I think there's a place for that, but also, you know... God says over and over again that he hates people.

David says he hates people and wants their destruction because the people and the evil can't be separated from one another. So, yeah, and God can sort that out. You know, we say God destroyed this evil.

He may change the person like he did Saul of Tarsus, right? Or he may take out the person and remove the evil that way. And you know, Jeff, I just leave that in his hands, right?

If somehow he can take this horrible person who's doing these horrible things and save them, well, praise the Lord for that. You know, I read a book called "The Persecutor" by Sergei Kordakov. He was in the Russian KGB, right?

And that was back when the Soviet Union was all together, and he spent his whole life persecuting Christians. He wound up getting saved. You know what?

We have to stop this. We have the Vintage Military Radio Network coming on in about seven minutes. LKJ7QQH, go ahead and close in prayer for us.

Let's go to Lord's Prayer. Heavenly Father, thank you for this blessed new day. Thank you for all of your blessings.

We have Pete. We'd like to pray for you today as well. Our first up is Roger.

He prayed that the memorial service yesterday went well, and he prayed for the gospel message that was delivered to Roger. be a blessing to all who attend tomorrow kj7 pbd we're going to lift up the westgate shampoos group going to lake chevron to the victims of wild bears they're thrown out of their homes So for them, give them the, what they need to minister to those people there. For W7RTV, he's suffering from physical disease.

Yeah, he's doing well, unfortunately. - - - -- - -- -- -- - -- -- is your hand of protection on him during those travels. For Ed, N6XOH, brother of our Ed, his wife, he'll sell them out.

So we want to qualify to buy that from them. For Will, kilobyte five box drive, Pray for his hormone treatment radiation to be effective in restraining, B, and removing prostate cancer from his upper brain group. For Carol, KK7, TPO.

Pray for the healing of her lower back. and we pray for him to have peace and comfort. Tom's recovery is going to be a great one.

major spine surgery too. He's in a wheelchair and a serious need of daily assistance. We pray his legs now close to the side and his legs will heal.

We pray that his feet will be like a wheelchair in fact. We also pray for Jimmy and Angela who are currently from St. George, Utah to Seatop.

today he threw the twain on me and prayed for a sageship there but back off off by day he would continue to pray for his healing in the resolution to the double vision following his accident and head injury he prayed for full restoration hearing needs right here and also for his wife and her support there. neighbor sandy needs healing from terminal cancer and she also needs to be saved. his severe alternate colitis, who treated Ms.

Healy through the medical treatment that he's receiving. For Coach, K-I-7-T-R-F, the Healy and his father, Roger, of his stage four colon cancer, who treated the Healy for his uncle, Doug. a believer from this severe headache.

We pray for his ongoing treatment and recovery, and also Cody's niece, Zoe, meet salvation. For Keith, WB7RKR, we pray for Keith to trust God in you with his, with the difficult circumstances he has been in and to make godly decisions regarding them. We pray for Keith to have wisdom and patience in managing his wife Ronnie's dementia, for Ronnie to be calm and peaceful, and we pray for Keith's health and needs as well.

For the suppression of wildfires in the western United States, safety for the firefighters. We pray for Steve, WVXYSI, to have with us, to find a new home to purchase in Tuolumne County, California. For Scott.

KD7YQT pray for his wife Ann who has severe lupus and that it would go into remission God's working to get an antenna up so he can join us on the next we pray Midwest 570 comes on at 4 a.m. here in Pacific Town. 539-6225 and for Darrell, WB7AOT is at control.

For Roger, WB7 at WPL, for James and Levi, both meet salvation. For Brian, KJ7, he doesn't last. His son Bailey and partner Joey have started a new construction and we pray for his success.

And Brian, KA7, VIP, Jay, he's healing for his prostate cancer. For Kevin, KB7, that I've been. For Harvey, WB3, VIP, his wife Karen.

who has a early onset Alzheimer's. We pray for our nation and its leaders, legislation, and national. Also, for the military that own our nation.

With that, Lord, we thank you for your goodness and your mercy and grace. Each one of us is a gift for the gift of your son, Jesus Christ. And as we're going to replay all these things, amen.

This is KJ7, CQH, back to you, back to Max at Net Control. All right, real good, Al. Thank you for that.

The net would like to acknowledge Dave, KJ7WKI. Dave, thanks for checking in. Appreciate you being there on the Utah SDR.

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<blockquote> Psalm 35:1-28 (KJV)

1 Plead my cause, O LORD, with them that strive with me: fight against them that fight against me. 2 Take hold of shield and buckler, and stand up for mine help. 3 Draw out also the spear, and stop the way against them that persecute me: say unto my soul, I am thy salvation. 4 Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that desire my hurt. 5 Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase them. 6 Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of the LORD persecute them. 7 For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul. 8 Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and let his net that he hid catch himself: into that very destruction let him fall. 9 And my soul shall be joyful in the LORD: it shall rejoice in his salvation. 10 All my bones shall say, LORD, who is like unto thee, which deliverest the poor from him that is too strong for him, yea, the poor and the needy from him that spoileth him? 11 False witnesses did rise up; they asked me of things that I knew not. 12 They rewarded me evil for good to the spoiling of my soul. 13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom. 14 I behaved myself as though he had been my friend or brother: I went mourning, as one that mourneth for his mother. 15 But in mine adversity they rejoiced, and gathered themselves together: yea, the abjects gathered themselves together against me, and I knew it not; they did tear me, and ceased not: 16 With hypocritical mockers in feasts, they gnashed upon me with their teeth. 17 Lord, how long wilt thou look on? rescue my soul from their destructions, my darling from the lions. 18 I will give thee thanks in the great congregation: I will praise thee among much people. 19 Let not them that are mine enemies wrongfully rejoice over me: neither let them wink with the eye that hate me without a cause. 20 For they speak not peace: but they devise deceitful matters against them that are quiet in the land. 21 Yea, they opened their mouth wide against me, and said, Aha, aha, our eye hath seen it. 22 This thou hast seen, O LORD: keep not silence: O Lord, be not far from me. 23 Stir up thyself, and awake to my judgment, even unto my cause, my God and my Lord. 24 Judge me, O LORD my God, according to thy righteousness; and let them not rejoice over me. 25 Let them not say in their hearts, Ah, so would we have it: let them not say, We have swallowed him up. 26 Let them be ashamed and brought to confusion together that rejoice at mine hurt: let them be clothed with shame and dishonour that magnify themselves against me. 27 Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant. 28 And my tongue shall speak of thy righteousness and of thy praise all the day long. </blockquote>

### Study Summary

Psalm 35 is one of the imprecatory psalms, where David calls upon God for justice against those who have violated justice. David's personal experiences with betrayal by Saul, Absalom, and Ahithophel are reflected in the psalm, expressing his profound grief and righteous anger. The psalm reflects a deep trust in God's role in vengeance, as seen in passages like Deuteronomy 32, Psalm 94, Nahum 1, and Hebrews 10, which affirm that vengeance belongs to God.

David's prayer in Psalm 35 is a plea for divine intervention, asking God to defend and deliver him, rather than taking vengeance himself. This theme is echoed in the life of Jesus, who, despite being betrayed and unjustly treated by the Pharisees and Sadducees, prayed for forgiveness of those who crucified him, but not for those who acted with malice.

The study discussed four perspectives on reading the Psalms: - The **Near View**: David's personal experience and application to him. - The **Far View**: Application to Christ. - The **Present View**: Application to us and our reactions. - The **Future View**: Future implications and the final judgment.

David's actions and reactions in the psalm show his kindness to his enemies when they were in distress, but his enemies rejoiced in his distress and gathered to attack him. David's prayer for his enemies, after exhausting reconciliation efforts, is a call for God's justice. This is seen as an example of how to handle situations where reconciliation is impossible, trusting God to change or remove evil.

Participants in the study discussed various aspects of the psalm, including the interpretation of verses 13-14, which highlight David's kindness to his enemies, and the importance of trusting God for justice. Prayer requests were also shared, reflecting a range of personal and communal concerns, emphasizing the ongoing need for divine intervention and justice in our lives. ==========