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good morning, Perk, W7RKD. How are you doing? We're American.

How are you doing over here? It's going to be a wonderful day. It's going to be a wonderful day.

But, yeah, I'll be in and out. Got laundry going on, so I'll be listening. But looking forward to getting my daily marriage.

All right, real good, Bert. I understand you're going to be in and out doing laundry and here for your daily bread. Copy all and appreciate you being here.

All right, that's Bert. That'd be a good one. Are there any other check-ins today?

Please come down to your call site. . Thank you.

All right, and I would like to acknowledge Brian, KJ7PWM. Brian, see you there on the Utah SDR. Appreciate you being there.

That's Brian, KJ7PWM. All right, any other check-ins, please come down. Bill.

. Alright, we've got about a minute and a half to go before we get started. We're going to be in Job chapter 32 and 33, so any more check-ins, please come down with your call soon.

I am making one of those WB7VZL, beautiful signal. There he is, Roger. Hey, thank you.

Beautiful signal for you, too. You know, you and Eric have the most amazing signals into this shack. It's like you guys are sitting right beside me.

So anyway, somehow the radio waves down too well between us. Roger, good to have you with us. Any prayer requests, over?

Well, Candy's flying, as we know. And Lord willing, I, in my morning prayers, am assuming that too, because she probably left for the airport at 2:00. I don't know.

precisely. D'Aleen and Candy did talk yesterday. And yeah, that's the big deal of the family.

Let's see. Oh, yes. And I have a car appointment at 7:00, so I'll be getting some -- I have to get some lead time here to take off a little bit early.

Over. Yeah, copy that. And we've got Candy and May, number two on our prayer list already, so we'll certainly be praying for them.

And I understand you got it early out. No worries. Roger, we need you to do some reading for us.

If you could read Job 33 for us, that would be great. Over. Roger.

Okay, copy that. And, all right, Roger, we got you checked in. Thank you for being there.

Any more check-ins for West Coast Barlow Study, please come down. all right we got you drew thank you for being here we got you checked in great signal by the way um so appreciate you being there all right that's bruce k4 vcl all right i also heard will kill my five foxtrot good morning well go ahead good morning uh no new permit class okay i'm positive Okay, copy. Will, good morning.

No new prayer requests. Will, we got to check in. Thank you for being there.

All right, any other check-ins, please, from now? KJ7, WKI. And there's Glenn, KJ7UMW.

Good morning, Glenn. How are you doing? Thank you.

I was in the car, and the two of you, me and my wife, took me out to lunch, and we went to a park, and we were close, and she was a strong woman, and I was a strong woman. So she's strong. I like the whole thing.

It's just like a place. - and I'm very excited. I'm a little bit worried though, I'm a little bit worried about the lockdown and I'm thinking very quickly about how I know a thing or another has to do with this pandemic that's going on and getting this, a lot of these thoughts about it.

So, I'm trying to tell it and I'm hoping it will be a little bit more positive. *Motorcycle engine noise* All right, real good, Glenn. Well, a guy with a broken neck is going to forget how to play a song or two.

So anyway, we got you on the prayer list for the healing of your neck. What's the name of your friend? Is this just his first name?

Of your friend who plays guitar with you who needs to be saved. We'll pray for him. What's his name?

Over. This morning was a very exciting day. The people, people were very, very nice to us.

We had a very nice time, we had a very nice time. Very nice time, we had a very good time. We had a very good time.

I all right real good that jerry 8070r uh you know glenn is first on our perilous there today If you could just add Dale for salvation. That's D-A-L-E for salvation. Jerry, go ahead.

I will do. Thank you for that. All right, we're going to get started with our West Coast Biolink study.

Is there any last-minute check-in? Please come to... KE7WKI.

I heard Dave there. KE7WKI. Dave, good morning.

Good to have you with us. Thank you for being there. Any prior requests, Dave?

Go ahead. Good morning, everyone. No prior requests.

Copy that, Dave. Good morning. No prayer requests.

Thank you for being there. Any other last-minute check-in? Come ahead.

All right. We're going to get started with our Bible study today. We're in Job chapter 32 and 33, and here we have a dramatic change in the book.

Here a fourth individual shows up that we haven't heard from before by the name of Elihu. and Elihu is going to provide a different perspective on Job and on his three friends that we have heard before. So it's going to be good stuff.

But before we get started, we want to open in prayer. And so Mike, W7TWO, if you could open in prayer for us today. I appreciate that.

Go ahead. Okay, this is W7-2W8, tomorrow night. And this is on a region of......a little sub on that one drive, just in the middle.

So if you walk in the lake, and he is in the lake, and there's another person walking with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ is flowing, Thank you. Thank you for the ability to get together and stand together this morning. Thank you for all the support and grandeur.

Thank you for believing in us and the rest of us of all our leaders in bringing these communities back. I'm sorry. God bless you.

My words are from the brightness of my heart. In my lips speak knowledge sincerely. The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Refute me if you can. Array yourselves before me. Take your stand.

Behold, I belong to God like you. I too have been formed out of the clay. Behold, no fear of me should terrify you, nor should my pressure weigh heavily on you.

Verse 8. Surely you have spoken in my hearing, and I have heard the sound of your words. I am pure without transgression.

I am innocent and there is no guilt in me. Behold, he invents pretexts against me. He counts me as his enemy.

He puts my feet in the stunts. He watches all my paths. Behold, let him tell you, you are not right in this, for God is greater than man.

Verse 13. Why do you complain against him that he does not give an account of all his doings? Indeed, God speaks once or twice, yet no one notices it.

In a dream of vision of the night, when sound sleep falls on men while they slumber in their beds, then he opens the ears of men and seals their instruction that he may turn man aside from his conduct and keep man from pride. He keeps back his soul from the pit and his life from passing over into shoal. Verse 19.

Man is also chastened with the pain on his bed and with unceasing complaints in his bones. so that his life loathes bread and his soul favorite food. His flesh wastes away from sight and his bones, which are not seen, stick out.

Then his bones draw near to the pit and his life to those who bring death. Verse 23: "If there is an angel as mediator for him, one out of a thousand, to remind a man what is right for him, and let him be gracious to him, and say, 'Deliver him from going down to the pit.' I have found a ransom. Let his flesh become fresher than in youth.

Let him return to the days of his youthful vigor. Then he will pray to God, and he will accept him, that he may see his face with joy. and he may restore his righteousness to man.

He will sing to man and say, I have sinned and perverted what is right, and it is not proper for me. He has redeemed my soul from going to the pit, and my life shall be the light Verse 29. Behold, God does all these oftentimes with men to bring back his soul from the pit, that he may be enlightened with the light of life.

Pay attention, O Job. Listen to me. Keep silent and let me speak.

Then if you have anything to say, answer me. Speak, for I desire to justify you. If not, listen to me.

Keep silent, and I will teach you wisdom. That completes Chapter 33, Max, WB7 of Israel. Roger, thank you so much for that reading, and also back good job, both of you.

The net would like to acknowledge Gene K7 GWR. Good morning Gene. See you there on the Utah SDR.

Alright, any comments on these two chapters? There's a lot there. Please come down with your callsign.

Who's that HM? Kevin, KB7ZXN, go ahead. Well, KB7ZXN, boy, what an interesting character, L.A.Q., huh?

Yeah, and that last verse, Roger read it just kind of just kind of sticks wrong with me but you know it's interesting Elihu kind of comes out of nowhere he brings himself interjects himself into the situation and into the conversation here we'll see that Job never does answer him And though God rebukes his other three friends in chapter 42, we don't see him mentioned by God either. But he does come from an interesting perspective. And we also see that he shares his lineage.

And as we made the connection yesterday... or at least I made the connection yesterday to Job's lineage as a descendant of Abraham through Esau and likely being Jobab, the second king of Edom there. We see that...

LSU has presented his lineage, which if you look at Genesis 22, I think verse 21, you see that it traces back to Nahar, Abraham's brother. But that being, you know, whatever significance that might be, but it does, I think, reinforce the family connection of this area of settlement in this time. probably contemporary with the grandchildren of Israel of Jacob you know and anyway but here he has an interesting approach he really he recognizes that okay you guys are the elders I waited for you to speak I give them there for the three the friends of Job and but he basically says no I'm just can't wait to talk I'm just busting at the seams to say something but then he starts out condemning Job and he really attacks Job and he attacks the three friends he attacks Job for just being for what he considers to be self justification and which is really not what Job has done, but this is the way Elihu sees that.

So he goes after him. We'll see that he also goes after his three friends for not offering any, for just repeating the same attacks. Now, one thing Elihu does introduce is the possibility that there may be other reasons for suffering, as we'll see.

But he still doesn't... He still goes after Job unjustifiably, and we see that here. TB7 is at accept.

Yeah, I guess I would disagree that he's going after Job unjustifiably. You know, I think his criticisms of Job are legitimate, but they're certainly different than what the others have offered. He takes an interesting approach.

First of all, he takes to himself the role of the mediator, right? He claims to have inspiration from God. You see that in verse 8.

You also see that in verse 18. But he also identifies himself as a man of claim, chapter 33. so he identifies with with Job so he's kind of taking the role of a mediator I says I've got insight from God I also understand Joe I'm a man of clay like he is and and so his attitude is one of sympathy with Job's condition kindness in his attitude but truth in his mouth that he does have a reproof for Job and the reproof that he gives to Job is that of questioning God in his justice for his complaint regarding his affliction And basically what Elihu is saying to Job is that whatever reason God sets this affliction, and it's certainly not because of your sin, like his three friends were accusing of, it's still not his place to question God or demand of God an answer or accuse God of injustice.

And you really see that in chapter 33, verses 8 to 13, where he says you're not just in accusing God of being your enemy, you're not just demanding of God an explanation for his conduct. God's not obligated to explain himself to a mere creature, or for that matter, to anyone. So he goes on to say that God's dealings are often...

for purposes other than the correction of sin. Sometimes they're for restraining man from committing future sin. Sometimes they're to deliver him from eternal destruction.

Sometimes they are unexplained, but certainly not something that are unwise or unjust. So the appeal of Job's three friends was own up to your sins, to cause all your problems, stop being a hypocrite, and they were concerned with the supposed wicked behavior of Job in the past. But Elihu, on the other hand, is concerned with Job's wrong attitude in the present.

He certainly accepts Job's protestations of innocence, but his point is that although Job's protestations of his innocence with reference to the past are valid, his present attitude and spirit are wrong. He suggests that Job's suffering is not for past sin at all, but rather from some other good purpose, such as restraining future sin, or preservation from pride, or instruction in simply trusting God. The problem is that Job is thwarting this good purpose.

that God is bringing adversity into his life for by his bad attitude. And so he doesn't charge Job with suffering because of sinning, but he does charge Job with sinning as a result of his suffering in that he is questioning God. And Job is saying, you don't question God.

God is working everything together for good. And so whatever that good is, you need to just humbly accept that and not be in defiance against it. So anyway, Kevin, back to you.

Go ahead. PB7, ZXN. Yes, and you make some good points there, Max.

And clearly he denounces the... his friends, he says the credentials that he offers is that he's listened attentively. But I think by the same token there, I just kind of lost my point here.

Yeah, no, I think you make some, a good, good case there. But I think too that he is still, I think overstepping his bounds a little bit here. And that he doesn't really, though he doesn't really address.

Well, one of the points I wanted to make, too, is we see later on that God does say that he condemns, well, back up. Elihu, you know, condemns Job for his speech and his self-justification and his questioning God. But God does not condemn Job for that.

We'll see later on. God says he's spoken rightly of me. So you have that as well.

KB 7 is that acceptable? And that's a good point. You know, I appreciate you bringing out what God said about Job.

He says, Job spoke rightly of me. And, you know, I think in the sense Job did speak rightly of God in that he said, you know, God is just. Right.

I would sure like him to explain his justice in this situation. And I think that's what Elihu is addressing. Yes, Job did speak rightly of God, as you said.

Thank you for pointing that out. But Elihu is saying, okay, if God is just, then just accept that and don't be demanding an explanation out of God. Because you notice one of the things he said is, is in verse chapter 33 and verse 13, why does God strive against him?

For he giveth not account of any of his matters. And so Job's problem was that he was demanding an account out of God. We're not in a position to demand that account out of God.

And so he was right in that he said, God's just. and he was wrong in that he said God owes an account to me of his justice alright Kevin thank you for that discussion I think that was really helpful alright any other comments on this passage please come down to the call line follow up Brian K7CIP go ahead . So verse 2 says, "Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Baal, the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram, against Job; and his wrath was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God." So that was Job's problem, is that he was complaining about why God is doing what he's doing.

Because, number one, Job understood God was just. That was a presupposition. He looks at his situation and he says, it appears to be unjust what God is doing to me.

And so I want God to explain himself. Okay? And what Elihu is saying is that you don't have a right to demand an accounting out of God.

regarding how he exercises and carries out his justice. And so Job was wrong, okay, in that instead of saying, you know, the judge of all the earth will do right, the judge of all the earth is gonna work everything together for good, and whatever his reason is for doing this, He is doing the right thing. Now, that would have been the proper attitude.

But the wrong attitude Job had was that he was demanding an explanation from God as though God owed that to him, number one, and as though Job could even understand God's explanation. were he to even give it to him, because God's plans are infinite. Man's understanding is finite.

And so it would be like Einstein trying to explain relativity to me. I'm not going to wrap my brain around that. I just can't go there, because he's so much smarter than I am.

Well, think about God and his infinite wisdom. So, Brian K., 7CIP, not sure if I answered your question. But yes, definitely, he is correcting Job because Job's focus is on what he deserves rather than what God is owed in terms of reverence and humility and acceptance in spite of us not understanding.

Back to you there, Brian. Go ahead. The - I'm not sure what to do there.

Yeah, okay, well, Job had sinned, to be sure, but his sin wasn't some secret hypocrisy or some abuse of widows or some of the wickedness that Eliphaz and Bildad and Zophar had accused him of, okay? The sin that Elihu is accusing him of is in a different category than the sin that those three men accused him of. And the sin that Elihu is accusing him of is not some great wickedness, committing adultery, or oppressing the widows, or having some secret hypocrisy.

The sin that Elihu is accusing him of is questioning the justice of God, demanding out of God an explanation for his dealings, or accusing him of injustice, or implying that he might be unjust. so yes there is an accusation of sin but it's not the same accusation of sin or the same category of sin that eliphazer zophar and bildad were accusing him of over Yeah, and as I said earlier there, Brian, the problem is that, you know, Elihu does not charge Job with suffering because he sinned. He's charging him with sin.

because he's suffering. So Job has no sin, right? Job suffers dramatically.

His response to that suffering is poor in some respects. Now, at times he responded really well to the suffering. So, for example, we read earlier, though he slay me, yet will I trust him, right?

Great response. If he could have just stayed there, he would have been fine, because he was expressing an implicit trust in God, even though he didn't understand Him, and no matter how great the suffering was, I was going to trust God. But then he kind of fell off the wagon.

and he starts saying, well, God, what are you doing? You know, I don't understand this. It seems like you're being unjust.

Explain yourself to me. Well, that wasn't a good response. And then he rises up and he says, I know my Redeemer lives, and though, you know, I die and decay in the grave, God's going to resurrect me, and I'll see his face, and I'll be satisfied.

And then he kind of sinks back down again, and he's saying, God, what are you doing? And so he has his ups and downs. And in those downs, he was less than trusting of God, and he got to be a little bit demanding of God.

And that is what Elihu is addressing. He's saying, look at it. You trust God even though you don't understand God.

You humble yourself before God even in the face of apparent injustice, because we know there is no injustice with God. And you don't take a posture of questioning and demanding. You take a posture of humility, of trust and obedience.

Yeah, it's a different category than it is, Brian. All right, thank you for that. Excellent point.

All right, any other comments on this section? Please come now. Is that AK6OK?

All right, we had a double there. First of all, we'll go with Jeff, AK6OK, and then Kevin. Go ahead, Jeff.

Yeah, good morning. In 5 to 7, I found this interesting with L.I.Q. He was in, and I'm reading out of the message, of course, because that's what I can understand.

Yeah. And if you think you can prove me wrong, do it. Lay your, lay out your arguments.

Stand up for yourself. Look, I'm human no better than you. We're both made of the same kind of mud.

So let's work through this together. Don't let my aggressiveness overwhelm you. It's interesting.

Let's work through this together. So, Elahe was kind of putting himself on the same plane as Job there, over? Yeah, he was.

And, you know, he expressed humility, he expressed kindness, but he wasn't going to back away from the truth. And so he's saying he identifies with them, he's in the same category as them. but he's giving them a new perspective, and I really appreciate that.

I feel like Elihu, in many respects, has that attitude of Galatians 6.1. If a man has overtaken and abhorred you, it's your spiritual resource that you want, and it's the spirit of Jesus. And I think he's doing that.

I mean, he's being rather forceful. But at the same time, he's not abusive. And Eliphaz and Bildad and Zophar were absolutely abusive in the way in which they dealt with Job.

And you see a note of kindness. You see a note of understanding. You see a note of identification with Job.

And he says to Job, I desire to justify you. I'm not against you. And so we see that in verse 32 of chapter 33.

He says, if thou hast anything to say, answer me, speak, for I desire to justify you. So he had this positive attitude towards Job. He identified with him as being a man of clay like he did.

But what he did say is, I have some insight, inspiration from the Spirit. to offer this new perspective. Kevin, KB7ZXN, you had a comment.

Go ahead. Yeah, KB7ZXN. And, you know, the LEU does at least approach this in a different perspective.

He does recognize that God does hold the answer. And he does attempt, at least he believes, to approach this fairly. and possibly with the retribution of both parties, of both Job's friends and Job.

So he does have an element of humility, and he offers a different... He doesn't take the same path of... just suffering because the retribution as as as as job friends have done but what he does offer is that the other option reason that God made you you're likely suffering is because God may be trying to communicate with you because there is he's trying to communicate with you and teach you something about sin in your life and about but i i would still contend that so that is another principle that is introduced here and and it is a biblical principle in some applications As we see, you know, with God's discipline sometimes and not just direct retribution, but with a rehabilitative goal, I still think that's misplaced here.

And one thing that Elihu does also touch on in verse 23 of chapter 33 is he brings in the idea of the mediator again, which he – necessity as Job does. But he does at least acknowledge the concept of a mediator there with the angel. So, you know, he's, I think, making an earnest attempt but I still believe that he's still missing the mark in understanding, as they are trying to understand.

But, yeah, it is refreshing that he's not at least taking the approach of the other three. Well, your suffering is just a direct result. retribution from God because of you've got some sin somewhere directly.

At least tries to just explain it by God's one channel of communication is through suffering. KB7 is that accepted? Yeah, thank you, Kevin, for that.

Yep. Well, you know, I guess, yeah, we're running out of time. Let me just summarize here, okay?

The appeal of Job's three friends was own up to your sin that caused all your problems and stop being a hypocrite. And so Eliphaz and Bildad and Zophar were concerned with the supposed sin. wicked behavior of Job in the past, and that's why he's suffering in the present.

Elihu, on the other hand, is concerned with Job's wrong attitude in the present. He accepts Job's protestations of his innocence, but his point is... is that although Job's claim of innocence with reference to the past is valid, he's saying your present attitude under suffering is wrong.

And so what he says to him is, Job, you need to have a teachable humility toward God, not questioning God, or being resentful towards him. His own pride had made him so self-righteously occupied with vindicating himself that he's even gone to the point of questioning God's righteousness. Now, he didn't accuse him, but he did question him, and that was a problem.

And L.A.U. addresses that. He also wants Job to have a submissive patience toward God, that is, waiting for God to make his purpose clear and looking to learn the lesson God has for him.

Because in due time, you know, Elihu is saying, it's going to become clear, and until then, You need to just patiently wait on God. And then the third thing he wanted Job to have is not only a teachable humility and a submissive patience, he wanted him to have a confident trust in God himself rather than in some explanation regarding God. And Elihu says, in effect, God cannot and will not do wrong.

Therefore, abandon any thought or accusation or even question of injustice or wrongdoing on the part of God. Put your confidence in God's character and not in your circumstances. And so Elihu does not himself fully understand why God has done this to Job, but he does know what kind of an attitude is appropriate for Job to have regarding things that he doesn't understand.

And so what he's saying is, "Look, have a teachable humility, have a submissive patience, have a confident trust in God, Because faith in God himself is better than any explanation that could ever be offered. And so, as I said previously in our studies together, we don't necessarily need to know the why of things. We simply need to trust the who of things.

And that is a perfectly holy and wise God that is controlling every situation, that always does right, that has goodwill towards his children, and is going to eventually display the wisdom of the course of action and providence that he's allowed to come to pass in our lives. And so the point is that God's choices may not be understood, but God's choices can be trusted because he can be trusted. And I think that's the essence of the argument here.

We're going to see it further developed because Elihu goes on here and talks for a couple more chapters. But anyway, it is certainly a new perspective. And while he may not have expressed it perfectly, I think he did substantially capture the importance of trusting in the Lord with all your heart, number one, and number two, leaning not on your own understanding.

Acknowledge him in all your ways, and he will direct your path. And so trusting without understanding because the person that you're trusting in is worthy of that kind of trust is the essence of how we get ourselves through things that are incomprehensible to us. God can be trusted, even when he can't be understood.

All right, we're out of time. It's time to go to prayer. Are there any final prayer requests that we want to bring to our attention?

Please come down at your call time. All right, Jerry, AE70R, go ahead and close the prayer for us. Sir, Frank, if you start the V8, we have to be on KB7EW.

He learned first what's in life, and he learned first what's deep in time. Also, they asked for salvation to be lost. Roger, WB70B, you know, can you tell us where I wanted to find it?

On Monday, and so he's placed his face there. How much did he touch on that street? Among the dead.

Doors. - K2, KJF, wife, two, having thyroid surgery, 117, pray for good outcomes. After death by post-abdominal sepsis, pray for a feeling to a medical treatment, see a PCP.

- Sir, don't even say that. and WCJ. Free from delays regarding pain, mobility, and health issues.

His friends and auto mechanic, my side, said no. Pray for peace and comfort to all affected by the staff. We are farmed by the elevated TSA.

Pray for rain to be effective in treating cancer. Doc, 76ROJ, pray for serious health problems. to his kidney and to the doctors to figure out what's wrong with him.

He was told he wanted to answer his family's email to the dental clinic on Tuesday. Al, KJ7228, pray for healing for your son John from cancer. And Al's neighbor, Lucas.

He suddenly lost his hearing. He needs a diagnosis as to the size of his injury. He needs to tell his patients pray for a buyer to found the purchase.

I'm taking a quick period. I'm just going to send a request. Carol and Leslie.

Pray for an accurate diagnosis of the vaccine. Use an MRI to assess. And pray, Lord, for an effective treatment plan.

KK7 TPL, Yuri, a person of stage C non-translations, or the S for Yuri. KK7, any dates? KK7 has been trans-mised for 40 years.

He was breaking up with his husband, leaving his wife. And thanks to the government's training, he's raised to each one of us. I'm so sorry for the guest that we found you.

A.T. Jack. Uh, Frank.

Rosie gave you a chance to find me. Really? To find me a home.

And you got me a Christian home for me. Flordie's biggest companion to this day. She asked if she'd go out and teach me sign language.

has been moved onto what we have. I'm going to read the Bible, not just the word, but I pray that you will receive me as a man who is a Christ, humble and faithful, and a great eternal man. Jerry, thank you for that prayer.

I really appreciate that. Annette would like to acknowledge Carol, KK7TPO. Carol, see you there on the Utah SDR.

Thank you for being with us today. All right, this is WB7NX. I want to thank all the stations who checked in this morning.

as well as those who stood by to give us a clear operating frequency. We meet here seven days a week at 6 a.m. in order to read the scriptures, understand their meaning message and application, and as we pray for grace and mercy to be able to live out what we learn and for God to meet the needs of those that are in our circle of fellowship.

I'll be returning this frequency now to regular amateur youth. This is WB7MX. I'll be clear and standing by.

Alphonse and 5 Yankee with today's shoot. All right, back out for 5 Yankee. Go ahead.

I kind of expect somebody to get this one, but we'll see. What has a head and a tail, but no body? What has a head and a tail, but no body?

How about a coin? You got it. Well, that's only because I was talking about coins and Sunday school yesterday.

So it's fresh on my mind. We're talking about the relationship between justification and sanctification. and how that there are two sides of one coin.

And while they're not the same, they're also not to be separated. The heads is not the tails, and the tails is not the heads, but they're always together in union. So anyway, Beck, I was all primed for that one.

Back to you, Beck. Ah, winner, winner, chicken dinner. That's amazing.

All right, anybody else out there want to chat? Go ahead. Brian, K7ZIP, go ahead.

Well, I am actually getting ready for my trip to New Jersey. I'm teaching a seminary class on Revelation to seminary students who are preparing for the ministry. at North Bergen Ministerial Academy.

So I'm going to be flying out Wednesday. I'll be going Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday teaching at the seminary. And so I am preparing lessons for that class.

today and tomorrow. So I'm going to be inside, keeping cool, doing some study while you guys are out slaving in the hot sun, getting in firewood and whatever else. Back to you, Brian.

Yeah, so how are you doing these days? You staying out of trouble? Thank you.

Well, that's real good. I'm glad you're making some progress. I'm sorry it's taking so long.

That's a bummer. Did you make it to pizza on Saturday night, over? Yeah, copy that.

Yeah, we didn't make it either. Went up to a granddaughter's birthday party up in, uh... Oh, well, it's, uh, North Forest Grove, uh, and west of there.

Um, my son lives out in the woods there, about 1,200 feet in elevation. So it was a great day and celebrated the granddaughter's birthday. She turned nine.

It's unbelievable to me the way these kids are growing up, but it happens for sure. And so, yeah, that's why we weren't there. But, yeah, our gardens grow like mad, and we're grateful for that.

We got most of the firewood in so far, still got more to get in. all right yeah you got to beat back the blackberries all the time you know i i logged about 15 acres of land back in 2021, and, you know, we replanted it. Well, the blackberries are out there competing with a little fir tree, so copy that, I'm beating the blackberries back.

- You always gotta rescue your stuff from the encroachment of the thorns and the thistles. - Well, that's part of the curse. You can thank Adam for that, Brian.

And in heaven, there won't be any thorns and thistles to beat back, so. Looking forward to that. All right, Brian, I'll let you go.

Get the house cool and get the BlackBerrys beaten down, and we'll chat with you soon. Brian, K87ZIP, 732U, WB7MX, standing by. So Alright, BVB7MX is clear in QRT.

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========== ### Scripture Reading (KJV)

<blockquote> Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God. Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job. Now Elihu had waited till Job had spoken, because they were elder than he. When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled.

Elihu spake moreover, and said, Hear my words, O ye wise men; and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge. For the ear trieth words, as the mouth tasteth meat. Let us choose to us judgment: let us know among ourselves what is good. For Job hath said, I am righteous, and God hath taken away my judgment. Should I lie against my right? my wound is incurable without transgression. Behold, I will speak in the pain of my spirit, and the grief which my heart causeth me shall not give me rest. Surely I would speak to the Almighty, and I desire to reason with God. But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value. O that ye would altogether hold your peace! and it should be your wisdom. Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips.

Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him? Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God? Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man with another, will ye go in with him? Ye shall say, Why do we find him? Let us know what is the end thereof. Mark well, I pray you, and behold the wondrous works of God: for God is great, and we know him not: neither can the number of his years be searched out. For he is greater than the earth, and stronger than the sea. If he lay his hand upon man, if he overtaketh him, then he understandeth it. If he withdraw his spirit from him, if he retain his breath, all flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust. If now thou hast understanding, hear this: hearken to the voice of my words. Shall even he that hateth reprobation, and will not commit iniquity, be as the unclean? and thou that bindest men to their words, and causest the closing of the lips? Wilt thou keep the old way which wicked men have trodden? which were cut down out of time, whose foundation was overflown with a flood: which say unto God, Depart from us: and what can the Almighty do for them? I will teach you by the hand of God: that which is with the Almighty will I not conceal. Behold, all ye yourselves have seen it; why then are ye thus altogether vain? I pray you, hearken to my speech, and regard my words in your heart. For I have not been with the company of the vain, neither have I joined myself to the worshipping of Baal: the words of his mouth are deep, he preserveth them, and layeth them up in his heart. Behold, he will be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the dust. A tree falleth to the earth; so shall the upright be brought low; and an evil man ceaseth. He shall be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the dust. Now, behold, my salvation is ready to be revealed; and mine eye shall behold it. Behold, God will not cast away a perfect man, neither will he help the evil doers: till he fill thy mouth with laughing, and thy lips with rejoicing. They that hate thee shall be clothed with shame; and the dwelling of the wicked shall come to nought. </blockquote>

### Study Summary

In Job 32 and 33, Elihu, a fourth individual, enters the scene with a fresh perspective on Job's suffering and God's justice. Elihu's introduction marks a shift in the narrative, as he addresses both Job and his friends, challenging their views on God's righteousness and the purpose of suffering.

Elihu criticizes Job for questioning God's justice and demanding an explanation, arguing that God is not obligated to explain Himself to Job or anyone. He suggests that Job's suffering may serve purposes other than punishment for sin, such as restraining future sin or preserving from pride. This perspective broadens the understanding of suffering, emphasizing that it can serve a divine purpose beyond retribution.

Elihu also emphasizes the importance of trusting God's wisdom and righteousness, even when one does not understand the reasons behind suffering. He describes how God communicates with people through dreams and visions, with the purpose of turning them away from sin and restoring them to righteousness. This highlights the idea that God's methods of communication are varied and can be understood through a deeper spiritual perspective.

Elihu concludes by urging Job to listen and learn from his words, offering to teach him wisdom and to justify him if he has anything to say. This plea for humility and patience underscores the theme of trusting in God's wisdom and righteousness, even when one's circumstances are difficult to comprehend.

The discussion among participants delved into Elihu's role as a mediator and his approach to Job's situation. Kevin noted Elihu's attempt to offer a different perspective, while Brian highlighted the importance of trusting God's character. Jeff observed Elihu's humility and positive attitude towards Job, and Kevin also questioned the appropriateness of Elihu's approach.

Overall, the study emphasized the importance of trust in God's wisdom, the purpose of suffering, and the need for humility and patience in understanding divine purposes. ==========