all right, anybody want to key up and chat with me? Carol or Brian, go ahead. K6, OK.
There's Jeff, AK6OK. Good morning, Jeff. How you doing?
Good morning. You're 20 over max, that's right. Yeah, you're 5 by 9 here for sure.
So anyway, thank you for being there. Okay, any other, any prayer requests there, Jeff? Go ahead.
Negative, all is well. Thank you. Alright, thank you, brother.
Appreciate that. Alright, any other check-ins this morning? The West Coast Bible Study, please come down.
KJ7QQH, Al and Jerry here with you. All right. Thank you, Al and Jerry.
We had another station there. I'll get back to that other station in a second. It was Aquila 7.
Al, KJ7QQH, Jay and Jerry, how are you guys doing? Go ahead. Yeah, copy that.
I'm glad to hear she's doing well. I just went in yesterday and saw the optometrist and got a new prescription as well. It should be here in a few days.
Right now I'm running eyeball barefoot, no glasses, if you can believe that. And so if things get a little blurry, I just shut my right eye, and my eagle left eye is able to pick it out. So all right, real good.
Okay, other station, K7, please come back to me again. All right, there's Keith. Kilo 7, November Echo Bravo.
Good morning, Keith. How are you doing? Good, Mike.
Good morning to all. Tell everybody. Okay, doing well and no prior requests.
Keith, we got you checked in. Thank you for being there. All right, any other check-ins?
Please come now. Thank you. I had a few months ago, I had an operation on my eyes to replace the lenses.
the universities, no matter what the distance, they really seemed out of place. You know, I mean, like I said, when I took my blue glasses off, it was, you know, low-quilted skin, it was almost unbelievable. I was going to go out and work a terrible night, doing a lot of things on the boat then, so I thought that was kind of cool.
And the wife, it was then turned out, wanted a good bear, so I'm pretty happy with the operation. But it's not like the natural ones, so that's just been worth it. Better that's the type of problem, so.
operation as done that was collected so back to you pastor all right yeah real good i'm glad to hear that cataract surgery is amazing you know i think of uh of isaac being so blind you can't tell the difference between jacob and esau uh it's probably what he had with cataracts but they didn't have surgery back in those days uh but so thankful for that now and isn't it amazing to be able to see like a young person again It's just mind-boggling after you put up with such bad vision for so long and glasses and all that stuff. Anyway, I've got to get back to my check-ins. Thank you for that endorsement of cataract surgery.
Appreciate that. All right, WP7MX here. I'm looking for check-ins.
Please come down. KM-5S. All right, KM5F, Will, good morning.
How are you doing, brother? Oh, I'm doing okay, just struggling to wake up a little bit here. But a cup of coffee will handle that.
No new prayer requests at this time, KM5F. All right, copy that. You got your coffee and no new prayer requests.
Will, thanks for being here. Other check-ins coming out. Helping the B7A, that's all.
And good morning, Roger. How are you doing? I found out when Candy is leaving for Kenya, it's Monday at about 2 a.m.
That's what my wife just said. All right, Candy, and now is May going with her? Roger.
Roger. All right, so Jerry, AE70R, this is a prayer request from Roger, WB7VZL. His sister Candy and her friend May, that's Candy and May, are going to be traveling to Kenya on Monday.
And so that's going to be the 15th. So that's just two or three days away. And so we need to pray for a safe journey to Kenya for Kandy in May.
QSL? QSL. Thank you for that.
All right, Roger, thank you for being there. All right, any other check-ins this morning, please come down. All right, we are going to get started with our scripture reading and our prayer today.
I haven't lined up anybody to do either of those, so I'm going to spring this on you at the last minute. And so, Will, can you open in prayer for us this morning? that you would work in our hearts, that you would draw us closer and closer to you as we would read your word, as we read and study Job.
So ask for your blessings upon those that have health issues, Lord, for those that have other-- issues such as financial issues. Lord, we ask for your blessings. In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen. Amen. Thank you so much for that.
Well, appreciate that prayer. May the Lord be pleased to grant each request. All right, we have to do some scripture reading now.
I will start out and read chapter 25, which is only six verses long. And Jerry, 8E7ER, if you could read Job chapter 26 for us. That's Job 26 there, Jerry.
And then Roger, WV7VZL, if you could read 27. And so what we have here is Bildad answering his final answer, and then Job answers for six chapters, okay? His answer is chapters 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31.
So we're going to break this up. and listened to Job for quite a while here. And then when Job is done talking, we have completed the three cycles of conversation with his friend.
And then in chapter 32, we're going to get the new perspective of Elihu. He's a fourth individual who's been silent up to this point in time. And yet he's going to speak up and he's going to give us a little better perspective than Job, you've sinned, therefore you're suffering.
And... He's going to tell us two things. One is that whatever the reason God sends us affliction, it's not our place to question God, demand of God an answer, or accuse Him of injustice.
So he talks first of all about Job's attitude towards God, and then secondly, he tells us that God's purpose in affliction is to do men good. It's to save them and to enlighten them, which, of course, is the correct answer. Romans 8, 28, God works those things together for good.
And so God isn't trying to injure us. He's trying to minister to us even through our afflictions. So Elihu gets it right.
But he's not going to show up until chapter 32, and we've got to get through this last section of this third cycle of discussion. So that's where we are at. All right, I'm going to read together Bildad the Shuhite's third and final statement to Job.
And then we'll start in on Job's answer, which covers six chapters, but we're just going to cover two of those six today. All right, I will read Job chapter 25, beginning at verse 1. Then answered Bildad the Shuhite and said, Dominion and fear are with him.
He maketh peace in high places. is there any number of his armies and upon whom does not his light arise how then can man be justified with god or how can he be clean that is born of a woman behold even to the moon and it shineth not yea the stars are not pure in his sight how much less man that is a worm and the son of man which is a worm all right uh jerry 87 er if you could read force chapter 26 i'd sure appreciate that Springfield responded, "What a help you are to the weak. How have you saved the arm without strength?
What counsel have you given to one without wisdom? What helpful insight you have the fun only provided. To whom have you uttered, 'Murph?'" And he still was expressed through you.
Two departed spirits tremble under the waters of their inhabitants. Nekhet is shoal before him, and Abaddon has no covering. He stretches out the north over empty space.
He hangs the earth on nothing. He wraps up the waters in his clouds. A cloud does not burst under them.
The experience pierce the face of the full moon, and spreads its cloud over it. He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the water, at the boundary of light and darkness. The pillars of the building tremble, and are amazed at his rebuke.
He quitted the sea with his power, and by his understanding he shattered the rain. But the breath the heavens declared, he tanned his pierced, his lean surface. Behold, these are the frenzies of his ways.
and I'll sing a word in the air of him so his mighty son, he can understand. That's the end of the earth. Jerry, thank you for reading.
Excellent job. All right, Roger, give us chapter 27, please. WB7, visit L.
NASB, and Job continued his discourse and said, as God lives, who has taken away my right? and the Almighty who has embittered my soul. For as long as life is in me and the breath of God is in my nostrils, my lips certainly will not speak unjustly, nor will my tongue mutter deceit.
Far be it from me that I should declare to you right. Till I die, I will not put away my integrity from me. I hold fast my righteousness and will not let it go.
My heart does not reproach any of my days. May my enemy be as the wicked, and my opponent as the unjust. For what is the hope of the godly when he is cut off, when God requires his life?
Will God hear his cry when distress comes upon him? Will he take delight in the Almighty? Will he call on God at all times?
I will instruct you in the power of God. What is with the Almighty I will not conceal. Behold, all of you have seen it.
Why then do you act foolishly? Verse 13: This is the portion of a wicked man from God, and the inheritance which tyrants receive from the Almighty. Now his sons are many; they are destined for the sword; and his descendants will not be satisfied with bread.
His survivors will be buried because of the plague, and their widows will not be able to weep. Though he piles up silver like dust, and prepares garments as plentiful as the clay, he may prepare it, but the just will wear it, and the innocent will divide the silver. He has built his house like the spider's web, or as a hut, which the watchman has made.
He lies down rich, but never again he opens his eyes. It is no more. Terrors overtake him like a flood.
A tempest steals him away in the night. The east wind carries him away and he is gone, for it whirls him away from his place. For it will hurl at him without sparing.
He will surely try to flee from its power. Men will clap their hands at him and will hit him from his place. That completes the chapter, Max.
Back to you, WB7VZO. Roger, thank you so much for that reading. Good job.
All right, any comments on anything that Bildad the Shoehite had to say or Joe's initial response in these first two chapters, please come down to your call sign. Kevin, KB7ZXN, go ahead. Yeah, KB7ZXN, yeah, as you point out, we're going into following the build adds a response here into job's very long inarticulate response through chapter 31 but the it's quite interesting here no that really doesn't have much to say is kind of regurgitating all he knows and in that he doesn't respond to Job's arguments he doesn't respond to Job's circumstance directly as far as his need or receiving any counsel Basically, Bill Dadd's response is, God is great and man is a worm, and you're a worm too there.
And it's really sad because there's a component in generality that Bill Dadd does recognize that because God is great, Almighty God and against man we cannot stand on our own our righteousness is expressed in Romans 3:10 demonstrates that our righteousness you know there's none righteous no not one Isaiah 64:6, you know, "Our righteousness is as filthy rags as if, you know, clothes off a dead man." They're corrupted, they're contaminated. But Job covers a lot of ground before you in his argument about the hope also provided by God. And we're going to see lost in here soon one of the most magnificent responses by Job where he, you know, one of the things we'll see is that the arrogance of his three friends who are so eager to condemn job and and minimalize him and think well you know we've got this figured out job you don't we are superior in our understanding of God than you so you you know And speaking of general accusations, you know, then Job launches into a great understanding of the holiness and the greatness of God that demonstrates he understands God so much deeper and so much fuller.
than his three friends and uh on that alone but then also uh addresses many other uh important theological points and for his circumstance is is fantastic and again i think these understandings even of his friends but the depth of job's as we see in uh you know job one that um Job was upright. You know, there was none like him in the region God declares. And I believe, again, that, you know, this is a direct tradition from shortly before of connection to Abraham, that he understood, he was.
reverenced the the worship and sought a communion with God and and and it reflects in his understanding and also in his faith here but anyway I'll leave it there there's so much more KB7 is at Exxon Yeah, Kevin, for sure. It's remarkable the amount of understanding Job had of God, given the historical place and time in which he lived. And so he had gotten some instruction from somebody somewhere, for sure.
and he had also perhaps been the recipient of some direct revelation himself. And so you're right. You know, the thing that Bildad says here in chapter 25 is true, okay?
How then, verse 4, how then can man be justified with God? For how can he be clean that is born of a woman? behold even the moon and the stars are not pure in his sight how much less a man that is a worm in the son of man which is a worm well you know that's a statement of human fallenness and human depravity and it's a true statement when taken um as you said very well a general statement about the condition of humanity in general uh but um You know, there is none righteous.
No, not one. All of our righteousnesses are as filthy rags. So, in that sense, Bildad is saying a true statement.
However, Job has been reconciled to God through faith in the promised Messiah. You know, he said earlier... back in chapter 19, I know that my Redeemer lives.
And so he had a relationship with God based on redemption, that redemption was founded upon the work of the promised Messiah and what he would do in atoning for sin and setting Job free by paying the ransom that God's law and God's justice demanded. So the description there in verses 4 through 6 used to apply to Job when he was unsaved, but it doesn't apply to him now, because he does have righteousness. He does have the favor of God.
He is clean in God's sight because of the saving, justifying work of Jesus that is going to be done on his behalf, in which he's trusting, and upon which he's depending for his forgiveness and his relationship with God. So, Once again, a genuine truth misapplied to Job's condition and situation. He acts like Job has no relationship with God whatsoever.
He's just a gross pagan, which of course is entirely untrue. So Kevin, thank you for that analysis. an explanation of Bill Dadd's statement there.
Really appreciate that. Alright, any other comments? Please come down.
Romeo Julia at Kilo. Go ahead there, Ross. You had such a way of explaining that, which I felt during that talk, and especially with Kevin going over it.
I think there's a part of especially people like me who are very jokey to reading forever my entire life, but certain things make sense. And there is a stop. There is a lock.
There is a something or rather which is. And it was sort of here again. And I believe there's a feeling.
There's a taste. There is something we all know. And it's either...
not necessarily right or wrong, but we just don't know. And I really appreciate listening to these, I guess we'll call them just reasons, but some of the greatest times we hear random people just speak about what they think. And there are so many interpretations of what is a first-table joke or not, or it's just so enlightening to hear people still talk about pure religion and life love, just belief is so important.
I love you guys for it. KC7, thanks again. Alright Ross, really appreciate that.
We appreciate you being there too and telling us what you're thinking and how God's using it in your life. You know, fellowship around the Word of God is so important to help us get things figured out. understand who we are and understand who God is and understand how we can have a relationship with him through repentance of our sins and faith in Jesus so praise the Lord for that Ross really appreciate you keying up and having a chat with us but do that anytime anytime you got a question a thought you just key up and express it and we'll we'll discuss it together with goodwill All right, Ross, KC7RJK, thank you for that.
All right, any other comments, please come down. Go WB7VCL. Roger, WB7VCL, go ahead.
Yeah, yes, I sure would like to appreciate Ross coming in and sharing very much so. I... One of the texts that stood out for me was this insight about the man in verse 7.
He stretches out, that's 26 verse 7. He stretches out the north over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing. Well, if there was any generation that we've actually seen that photographed, and of course there are those that scoff at even photographs nowadays, but I'm still a believer that what actually the moon and the earth out there suspended in space hanging from nothing except the marvelous gravitational forces that we studied about when we went through physics back to you over here Roger and and that's the thing is you know job has a knowledge of physical reality and that is amazing back then, that is still congruent with science today.
And indeed, there's nothing in the Bible that contradicts true science. You've got the fake science of evolution, which is really science fiction, but when you look at scientific facts and not just speculative theories, everything the Bible says about the physical universe and humanity and all those objective things have turned out to be absolutely true. And how could Job know that the earth hung upon nothing other than by divine revelation?
He had contact with the Creator. He understood the Genesis narrative, chapter 1 and chapter 2, about God creating all things. And so he stands in awe, and he marvels at this creator and what he is able to do.
And that's really what he's doing here in chapter 26, is he's expressing his understanding of God, especially in relationship to the natural creation. And what he's saying really to build that here is, look, I understand God. Let me tell you a little bit about God.
And so he talks about the fact that he's formed all things, that he sees all things, and then he hangs the earth on nothing. I thought verse 8 was really interesting as well. Not only does he hang the earth upon nothing, verse 7, but verse 8, it says, He binds up the waters in thick clouds, and the cloud is not rent under them.
And so he recognizes rain comes down out of the clouds, and you know, a lot of rain comes down out of the clouds. And yet it's like maybe he viewed these clouds as bags holding all this water. And then the water comes out, and there's so much there, and the weight is so great, and yet the clouds are not torn.
Interesting observation there. And then he just talks about how he creates boundaries for the ocean, verse 10, and on and on about the natural creation. And so he has this perspective of God that he has the power to create.
He has the power to hold things in space. He has the power to bring the rain in such a way that it is properly delivered. And as he looks at God's management there in chapter 26 of the natural creation, He's expressing a depth and degree of understanding of God that he's going to build on as he goes through the subsequent chapters.
But, you know, one of the things that we've got to recognize is that the Bible is literally saturated with references to God as creator. And if you're going to deny the narrative in Genesis 1 and 2, you've got to throw away the whole rest of the Bible. Because constantly, reference is made to God as creator as a way to bring us to an understanding of the infinite power and the infinite wisdom that he has.
And if he can make it all, and if he can manage it all, and he can certainly run the affairs in our life in such a way... that his glory is achieved and our good is accomplished. All right, other callers, please come down.
I have a WB-7, please, at all. Roger, go ahead. Yeah, I have, and maybe Kevin can give us insight too about this.
Rahab, it's capitalized, it happens a couple of times in Job. Is this a region or a... What about Rahab?
Rahab in verse 12 of 26. Yeah, the King James doesn't have that, which is the one I use. So verse 12 says, He divides the sea with his power, and by his understanding he strikes through the proud.
And you're saying that word proud is translated Rahab, is that correct? Roger, yeah. And it happened before in Job.
chapter 9 verse 13 I wonder if Kevin might have any thoughts over yeah copy that I'm clueless about that it may be that Rahab is just a Hebrew word for pride but Kevin do you have a comment about that go ahead Well, KB7, to that extent, thank you for the inquiry. I'll have to look into that specifically. It seems like I did.
I just wrote, as Max knows, a very extensive article covering a lot of the Christology and typology and the theology of Job. And also, what I believe, I made an argument to where I believe he has the knowledge he has and the faith he has, and that's at discovertheword.net, so there's a lot there. anyone's welcome to read that but i i did come across that but i don't recall right now i'd have to go back to my notes i i ended up with so many notes so uh i i i there there is some reference to that But I think King James gets the gist of it there.
I think there is some historical context to that. And one of the things, too, is... you know I think it's it's so important here and speaking of Joe's faith and understanding I think we see a kind of a parallel with Abraham and and and that his faith was counted to him for righteousness you know as we read in romans 3 28 you know faith aside from the law justifies and we see god's grace before the law working in the life of job despite the suffering i think one of the lessons we're going to learn here and i cover this in the article, is one of the God's responses is there is a law of retribution from wickedness, but also suffering does not mean that that is the cause and effect.
In fact, as a faithful believer, also can bring on suffering as we see in our Lord Himself. And our Lord responds to it with His presence. He doesn't answer why.
but he enters into that suffering on our behalf, and of course we know ultimately by way of the cross. So there's a lot that's going to be unpacked here, but to that specific question, Roger, I don't have it in front of me. KB-7, is that acceptable?
All right, Kevin, real good. All right, Roger, we're going to have to put that question off and look at that down the road. I appreciate that.
Okay, I just got a comment on my -- no, I don't think so. All right, Danette would like to acknowledge Philip, K6HSV. Good morning, Phil.
Good to have you there on the Half Moon Bay SDR. All right, certainly this is not talking about the Rahab and the Book of Joshua, okay, because the Book of Job was around long before the Book of Joshua. was written or the events in it took place.
All right, WB7MAX here looking for further comments on our chapters, please come down and call us on it. - KM5S. - Ah, Romeo to Nick.
- Okay, I had a double there. First we'll go with Will, KM5S, and then we'll go with Ross. Will, go ahead.
- Well, I have a footnote in one of my Bibles. It says, in Hebrew, Rahab. the name of a mystical sea monster that represents chaos in ancient literature.
And I just sent you the text on it. Can you answer this? Will, thank you for that.
I appreciate that. Okay, so the word Rahab refers to a mythical sea monster, the idea of a raging beast that's raising itself up against God. and that God is able to smite it.
So there's nothing that rises up against God that he cannot defeat and destroy. So, Roger, that's Will Kiloy, Five Foxtrots, and to your question. Copy?
Thank you. Thank you, Will, for looking that up. I was not fortunately able to hear Will hardly at all with my noise.
But thank you for repeating that, Matt, very much. That's Another comment I had is in Chapter 27, in Job's commitment to integrity. It reminded the plea bargains that occur even in our legal system when there's a lot of pressure at times to compromise your conscience just for advantage or to squeal on somebody else There's just a tremendous amount of pressure at times to actually say you're guilty and you're not, type of thing.
But I see this transparency that Joe does his utmost. Until I die, I will not put away my integrity from me. He really wants to make sure his conscience is clear.
since there's a lot of consciences that have compromised, have been compromised in our society and even in our legal system ever. Roger, well said. I'm glad you brought that out.
I do want to comment on that. However, I do want to say that Keith K7NEB wrote me a note, and it was identical with what Will Kilmike 5 Foxtrot wrote. Rahab, in my notes, is a mythical sea monster or a symbolic embodiment of...
chaos and evil. And then of course Will said that Rahab is the name of a mythical sea monster that represents chaos in ancient literature. So that pretty well settles the answer to that question.
Thank you both for sending that message. Now, Roger, back to your comment. I want us all to focus in on this passage Roger's talking about.
It's Job chapter 27 and verse 5 and 6. In Job 27, 5 and 6, it says, Job says, God forbid that I should justify you till I die, I will not remove my integrity from me. My righteousness I hold fast and will not let it go.
My heart shall not reproach me so long as I live. So as you recall, Job was being accused of having some hidden sin or some secret hypocrisy or some wickedness. that he was engaging in.
And this is why he was having all of these troubles. And Job says, absolutely not. And while Job certainly admits he's a sinner, and rightly so, what he's saying is that he has mortified his sins.
He's walking in integrity. The dominating characteristic of his life is one of serving, obeying, and following God. And for him to accept the accusations that are made against him would be a lie.
And so a lot of people say, "Well, you know, if you don't accept the rebuke that's given to you, it's just because you're proud." Well, no. If you don't accept the rebuke that is given to you, maybe it's because the rebuke itself isn't true. Now, if it's true and you're not going to accept it, well, then you are proud, right?
But what job is saying here is that there is no substance and I think I use the illustration the other day You know, I could accuse a Kevin of robbing a bank Except I don't have any evidence of it. It's all Kevin. You're not gonna admit that you robbed the bank.
Well, you're just proud and That would be ridiculous, wouldn't it? Okay. And so, but that's what they're doing here to Job.
And Job is saying, "No, no, no, I've never robbed a bank. I'm not guilty of these things you accuse me of. And I really appreciate the fact that just to make peace, he's not going to give in to a false accusation.
He's going to insist that if we're going to have reconciliation, it's going to be based on justice and truth, or else it isn't going to happen. And that is a man who has a clear conscience. And Roger was saying that sometimes, you know, a lot of people don't have clear consciences, and they are filled with guilt because of secret sins or whatever.
and Job is able to, with a clear conscience, say, "The accusations are true." Just like Kevin could say with a clear conscience, "I haven't robbed any banks." And so, I value Job's integrity here. He's not being self-righteous. He's not saying he's sinless, but what he is saying is that he's lived with integrity and the accusations are true.
Roger, thank you for bringing out that point. All right, other comments. Please, Camille.
Romeo, Juliette, Kilo. Romeo, Juliette, Kilo. Go ahead.
Going back about him is, power and pride are amazing. It's up to the Bible. And neither matter without integrity.
So we can go on and on. forever about that. I fully enjoyed the story about all of it.
Keep listening. We love you guys. Thank you very much.
All right, Ross. Real good. Thank you for that comment.
Appreciate it a great deal. All right. Any other comments on our passage, please come out.
Is that exempt? No. I think I heard ZXN.
Go ahead, Kevin. Yeah, great. Great comments and observations.
I'm glad others are contributing there. KB7, ZXN, and, you know, I too, looking at my notes and references on the... on that.
It's really in reference to dragons. It's drawing on some Near Eastern motifs there of a great deity defeating the chaos, the dragon of chaos, if you will. both from Babylonian traditions and Canaanite traditions later on.
But, yeah, it's very poignant here, too, in that, you know, that that's all defeated. But I think you made the next point, and I was going to make this point too, is that Bildad's argument falls way short. His argument is like, well, because man is depraved, and man is liars and thieves you must have robbed the bank you know and um and one doesn't equate to the other yes we are with you know we cannot stand before a holy god of our own righteousness but if we have faith in and as God has revealed himself and worship him, as God has revealed himself, as we see examples in chapter 1 and the faithfulness maintained by Job.
We see that evidence of righteousness, that grace that God has imparted to Job and that that God has given Job. And yes, Job never loses sight. In fact, he has a greater grasp of the glory of God than any of his friends.
But he has the right application and understand that's why he called for a mediator. He knew that it was only God that could purify. KB7, Zedek Sinch.
Yeah, Kevin, thanks for that comment. You know, the thing is that Job recognized the only place he's going to get justice is from God. He's certainly not going to get it from his three friends.
And, you know, I think that that's one of the things we have to recognize in our life. is that people misjudge us all the time. And they either think too highly of us and set us up on a pedestal, or else they think too poorly of us and they kick us down into the gutter.
And, you know, neither of those things are true. We know the truth because we live it. And God knows the truth because he sees it perfectly.
And so we have to rest in that and on his judgment and what he's going to ultimately say about us. Because God, if you will, is the Supreme Court, right? There is no higher bar of appeal than God.
And so that's what Job is doing here. And, you know, it's just amazing that he has to go through this abuse, and yet he continues to maintain his orientation toward God, his appeal to God, and is resting in God's ultimate judgment on what he is doing and experiencing. The net would like to acknowledge Gene, K7 GWR.
Good morning Gene, see you there on the Utah SDR. We got Dan in, 6T and I checked in as well. Alright, any other comments?
Wow, we're out of time. We've got to stop here. Alright, any final prayer requests that anybody wants to bring to our attention before we go to prayer?
Please come down. Send me the prayer. Go ahead.
I just think that's thinning the herd. Thinning the herd? Yeah, go ahead and elaborate, please.
Just again, I just think there's so many different ideologies about the religion, and especially Christianity, which is so hard to understand sometimes, and so it's exploiting properly. - Thank you, Max, for actually being an amazing Bible study professor. Yeah, thank you for that.
that, Ross. Appreciate that. You know, what you're talking about, a lot of people struggle with, and that is that, okay, we hear all these voices saying, this is the way, walk you in it.
How are we going to sort all that out? And, you know, there's a passage, Ross, in Isaiah chapter 8 and verse 20. And it says, "To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this word, it's because there's no light in them." And so what we have to do is the hard work and the difficult work of comparing what is being taught by people to what the Bible itself says.
And if it doesn't match up with what the Bible says, then we have to reject it. And if it does match up with what the Bible says, we have to embrace it. And so that's a sifting process.
It's a long, difficult process. It demands a couple of things of us, number one. that we know what the Bible says and what the Bible teaches by what it says.
And then number two, that we're willing to put through a filter all the things that are taught to us. And so in the New Testament, we have that passage in Acts chapter 17, where it says, Paul came to the city of Berea. and it says they gladly received the word which he taught and then they searched the scriptures daily to see whether those things were true.
And so once again we have this example, compare it to the word of God. And even Jesus said that his teachings were to be put to the test of scripture there in John chapter 5. He says search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life.
and they are they which testify of me. So over and over again we see Bible teachers declaring that even their own teaching should be examined in light of the Word of God. So it's a long process, Ross.
I've spent a lifetime sorting out, number one, what does the Bible say and what does it mean by what it says. And then who is accurately accuing the teaching of the Scripture in their own teaching? And so there's that.
And then there's a supernatural aspect to it, Ross. And that is you have to pray and ask God for wisdom and understanding and illumination. Because ultimately understanding the Bible is not an academic exercise.
It's one that the Spirit of God has to work supernaturally in our hearts. You know, in Luke chapter 24, Jesus was talking to his disciples. And he says, Then opened he their understanding that they might understand the Scriptures.
And so, you know, it's really important to pray, God, open my understanding that I might understand the scriptures. Cause your spirit to lead me into the truth. So there's things God can do in helping us with understanding that we could never do on our own.
And then there's things we have to do, which is read the Bible, reflect on it, meditate in it day and night. And as we do, we come to an understanding of the truth with the supernatural help of God and with diligent work on our part. We come to an understanding of the scriptures.
And so that is something that is worthwhile doing. It's a big investment, right? But what's more important than understanding how to have a relationship with God?
and how to be right with Him so that we not only are blessed in this life, but when we show up on the Day of Judgment, He embraces us as one of His redeemed and reconciled children into the Kingdom of Heaven. So, Ross, thank you for expressing the struggle. But thank you for being here also to listen.
And just want to encourage you with those two thoughts. Pray and ask for illumination. And secondly, compare everything you hear with what the Bible says and teaches.
Back to you there, Roswell. It's actually the best thing. about being alive.
I think, I know this is going to sound really bad, but I literally think before I go to bed every night, I'm going to wake up and there is no obvious answer whether I'm going to go to bed. I have to let this draw me. I am finding Connection to God I never had.
I believe it is. Amen. Well said.
And it is all about belief. It's about faith. I mean, the Bible says that we walk by faith and not by sight, and that faith is in Jesus as our Savior from sin.
And, you know, if you get just one thing right... It's that you're a sinner and that Jesus is the Savior and that by trusting in Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins, you are forgiven, you are reconciled to God, and you're justified in His sight. And that's where we have to begin.
And so you're right. It's belief in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, trusting in him for the forgiveness of your sins, following him in the direction of leadership he provides. That's what the Christian life is all about.
And that's what lifts us out of the negative circumstances we can find ourselves in. Sets us on a heavenly plane where we're looking upward at God. God is with us every day.
God's working all things together for our good every day. We're trusting in Jesus as our Savior. We're following him as our Lord.
We're reading his scriptures to understand what we want to do and be. And as we do that, we find our lives fulfilling the purpose for which they were created. And we wind up being able to leave behind the chaos, the uncertainty, the fear, the guilt, the shame.
all those things that attach to every one of us and jesus sets us free from those things and gives us a brand new life that is filled with peace and joy in believing back to you there ross go ahead all right ross real good thank you for sharing that and thanks for the conversation All right, this is WB7MX, Net Control to the west, Coastal, Los Angeles City. And Jerry, AE70R, if you could just go ahead and close and pair up for us, I would appreciate that. Go ahead, Jerry.
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Yeah, I think a couple of references I had in my notes. I hadn't looked them up quite yet. But regarding the Rahab and the dragon, what's Psalm 89:10 and Isaiah 51:9.
I'll have to go back and but anyway yeah I think uh even in the exodus there's some reference to Egypt in that context it's also the dragon but anyway uh good good lesson and uh And, yeah, there's a lot you have to cover, but I think made some excellent points and sure appreciate the other input from the others there and yourself. KB7, is that acceptable? Yeah, Kevin, for sure.
Bayrou is called Dragon in the poem. You know, he, of course, was chasing Israel. They came up against the Red Sea.
You know the story very well. Moses divided the Red Sea, and they went safely across. And Pharaoh the dragon and his armies went down in the Red Sea and, of course, were drowned.
And Pharaoh is a picture of Satan. Israel being in bondage in Egypt is a picture of the sinner in bondage to Satan. Moses comes along.
He's the great emancipator. He's a picture of Jesus. And by his power, he delivers the children of Israel from bondage to a Pharaoh who is Satan and saves them.
And, of course, that salvation is pictured in their exodus out of the kingdom of Pharaoh. And, of course, where they headed to into the kingdom of God, which is Canaan. Right?
And of course, going through the Red Seas, the picture of baptism. We read about that in 2 Corinthians 10, or 2 Corinthians 10, I forget which. So yes, there's a lot of foreshadowing in that story.
And that's the reason why Pharaoh is called the dragon. And, of course, Satan is called the dragon in Revelation chapter 12. So what we have here is a wonderful visual picture and foreshadowing of the saving work of Jesus, where he delivered us from Satan the dragon, brings us out of his kingdoms, and into the kingdom of God.
So, yeah, Kevin, the term dragon is used of Satan and those who represent Satan and those who serve him. Back to you there, Kevin. Go ahead.
well you're exactly right and that's that was the point of that because that is always represented of Satan and we see that congruency here in Job all the way through the scriptures from the Old and New Testament and it always is connected to chaos as we know Satan the dragon is Satan and chaos you know God is a God of order And where we see chaos, we know that is not the hand of God. So, yeah, throughout we see that example and that not only metaphor, but also the direct, like you say, identity of Satan being the dragon. all the way through the text.
So, yeah, it is the congruency here in Job as well as throughout other texts. KB7, is that extended? Yeah, well said, Kevin.
Thank you for that. Appreciate that. All right, WB7MX here, willing to chat with anyone who wants to throw out their call sign.
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Yeah. Yeah, hey, man, I'm really sorry for your loss. It sounds like she died just recently, and her name is Connie Johnson.
Is that correct? Yeah, right. So anyway, yep, it's hard to lose your mom.
I lost mine. several years back. And there's nobody like Bob.
They are irreplaceable. And what a wonderful contribution they made, not only in giving us life, but in raising us and doing the phenomenal amount of work that they do to take care of us. Over.
Yeah, I copy that, Ross. Well, may the Lord give you peace. May He give you comfort.
May He fill you with His presence. And may that be to you a source of peace. encouragement as you deal with your loss and as you chart the way forward after having experienced that loss.
Love you, Ross, and we'll be praying for you and your peace and comfort over it. loved every single person in the world and didn't choose. And everyone has to be their own to be judged.
And that's a very amazing fact. I never had bad friends. I didn't send them all out.
I'm going to make that a real long and short thing. That's what happened after 45 years. Yeah, you bet.
Well, thank the Lord she protected you as a young person and helped you to your friends. Yeah, what a great legacy. And I appreciate that.
All right, Ron, it's good talking to you. KC7RJK, this is WB7MAX. All right, any further comments?
Go ahead. KB7, Zeddington. I just want to say my condolences as well, Ross.
And so glad you joined us. I'm not sure if you copy me there. But I'm going to cue our T-Max.
And blessings to all there. KV7ZXN. Yeah, copy that.
Praise the Lord for our health care providers, especially the people of Riverbend. and that they were there for you and that they helped you and helped you work through this process of dealing with the loss of your mom. All right.
Praise the Lord for that, Ross. Thank you. All right.
WB7MX here. Net control for the West Coast Barlow Study. The net is ended, but we are having after discussion.
If anybody wants to talk, please come down to your call sign. Copy that, Ross. KC7RJK, 73 to you and QRT.
Alright, so anybody else want to chat, go ahead. Well, hello Ted, how are you doing? Thank you.
========== ### Scripture Reading (KJV) Job 25:1-6 Then began Bildad the Shuhite, and said, Dominion and fear are with him, he maketh peace in his high places. Is there any number of his armies? and upon whom doth not his light arise? How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman? Behold, even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight. How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?
Job 26:1-14 Then Job answered and said, How hast thou helped him that is without power? how savest thou the arm that hath no strength? How hast thou counselled him that hath no wisdom? and how hast thou plentifully declared the thing as it is? To whom hast thou uttered words? and whose spirit came from thee? The dead tremble under the waters and the inhabitants thereof. Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering. He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds; and the cloud is not rent under them. He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it. He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end. The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof. He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud. By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent. Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?
Job 27:1-23 Moreover Job continued his parable, and said, As God liveth, who hath taken away my judgment; and the Almighty, who hath vexed my soul; All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils; My lips shall not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit. God forbid that I should justify you: till I die I will not remove mine integrity from me. My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach me so long as I live. Let mine enemy be as the wicked, and he that riseth up against me as the unrighteous. Behold, my witness is in heaven, and my record is on high. Behold, my witnesses are on high, and my record is on high. My friends scorn me: but mine eye poureth out tears unto God. Oh that one might hear me! behold, my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book. Surely I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me. But ye say, Why persecuteth he us? and what is the root of his wrath? Know ye not in your hearts that it is even ye that have lifted up his face? And will ye recover yourselves by words? but he is not like you: for in his hand is power and strength: he shall strengthen himself in his knowledge. Behold, he taketh away, who can hinder him? who will say unto him, What doest thou? If he will not withdraw his anger, the proud helpers do stoop under him. He giveth no regard to any that are wise of heart, neither doth he find knowledge in the counsellors.
### Study Summary The study focused on Job 25:1-6, Job 26:1-14, and Job 27:1-23, examining the dialogue between Bildad and Job in the context of their understanding of God's greatness and man's insignificance. Bildad's final statement in Job 25:1-6 acknowledges God's supremacy and the insignificance of man, but Kevin pointed out that this truth was misapplied to Job's situation. Job's righteousness and his faith in the promised Messiah were emphasized, highlighting his integrity and commitment to righteousness despite his trials.
Job's response in Job 26:1-14 reflects his understanding of God's power and creation, particularly in his reference to "Rahab," a mythical sea monster representing chaos. Kevin explained the term "Rahab" and its connection to Babylonian and Canaanite traditions, illustrating Job's deep knowledge of divine power and creation.
Continuing in Job 27:1-23, Job reaffirms his commitment to integrity and righteousness, refusing to accept false accusations and maintaining a clear conscience. The discussion drew parallels to legal systems and the pressure to compromise one's conscience, emphasizing the importance of integrity and faith in God's judgment.
The study also touched on the importance of comparing teachings to the Bible, referencing Acts 17:11, and the supernatural aspect of understanding the Bible with God's help, as seen in John 5:39 and Luke 24:45. The role of faith and belief in Jesus as Savior was discussed, with participants sharing personal testimonies and encouragement.
The session concluded with prayers for health and comfort, including a prayer for Candy and May traveling to Kenya, and condolences and support for Ross's loss of his mother. ==========