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All right, that's Bert, W7RKD. All right, any other check-ins, please come now. Thank you.

and we'll get started with our net. Well, we are in the second cycle of discussions between Job and his three friends. The first cycle covered chapters 4 through 14, and Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar each spoke and Job responded to each of them, and that cycle ended.

And now we're in the second cycle, where once again, Eliphaz and Bildad and Zophar are going to speak a second time each, and Job is going to respond a second time to each of them. And that cycle is going to cover chapters 15 to 21. Well, we got into that previously.

We're kind of in the middle of it now. And we are in the section where Eliphaz has spoken in the second cycle and Job has responded and now Bildad is going to speak and Job is going to respond. So we've got a lot of material to cover.

We're going to cover chapter 18 and chapter 19. And so that will then lead us to Zophar in chapter 20 which we'll deal with tomorrow God willing. But before we get started with our net we want to open our time together in prayer.

Ed in 6XOH made it safely back from California visiting his grandson for his graduation. And he is back with us this morning. So, Ed, please open in prayer for us today.

Sure, let us pray. Dear Heavenly Father, we extend you this morning. Thank you for all the blessings that you've shown upon us.

And you keep us safe. And I just pray for each person here in faith. And that you're watching over each and every one of us.

and bless our disciples today and this morning. Each one of us here can gain a blessing in the things that we learn in the book of Job. So Lord, this afternoon, take good care of us all.

I'm going to ask you to continue to watch over us. I just ask, Lord, that we'll all be ready to go home and you come to take us home, Lord. I pray in Jesus' name.

Amen. Amen, Ed. Thank you so much for that prayer.

I really appreciate that. All right. And Carol, KK7TPO, see you there on Utah, and we got you checked in.

All right, let's do our scripture reading now. I will start out in Chapter 18. I'll be reading out of the King James, and then Roger will pick up after me at Chapter 19.

Let's read what Bildad the Shuhite has to say in his second round and see if he has learned anything. And we're going to see that he hasn't. All right, verse 1.

Then answered Bildad the Shuhite and said, How long will it be ere ye make an end of words? Mark and afterward we will speak wherefore are we counted as beasts and reputed vile in your sight he tears himself in his anger shall the earth be forsaken for thee and shall the rock be removed out of his place yay the light of the wicked shall be put out and the spark of his fire shall not shine. The light shall be dark in his tabernacle, and his candle shall be put out with him.

The steps of his strength shall be straightened, and his own counsel shall cast him down. for he is cast into a net by his own feet and he walketh upon a snare the jinn shall take him by the heel and the robber shall prevail against him the snare is laid for him in the ground and a trap for him in the way terrors shall make him afraid on every side and shall drive him to his feet his strength shall be hunger bitten and destruction shall be ready at his side it shall devour the strength of his skin these ten times you have insulted me you are not ashamed to wrong me even if I have truly erred my error lodges with me if indeed you want yourselves against me and prove my disgrace to me know then that God has wronged me and has closed his net around me Verse 7, darkness on my path. He has stripped my honor from me and removed the crown from my head.

He breaks me down on every side and I am gone. And he has uprooted my hope like a tree. He has also kindled his anger against me and considered me as his enemy.

His troops come together and build up their way against me and camp around my tent. Verse 13. He has removed my brothers far from me and my acquaintances are completely estranged from me.

My relatives have failed me. If you say, "How shall we persecute him?" and "What pretext for a text against him can we find?" then be afraid of the sword for yourselves. And he doesn't even offer him any hope of redemption at this point in time.

He's just offering him straight, pure, unadulterated condemnation with a variety of different word pictures and declarations. So this is what is happening. Bildad is doubling down on the position that the three of them have taken.

continue to endure the great loss of his family the loss of his health the the physical afflictions the spiritual attacks from his supposed friends He didn't say here that he's going to live 2,000 years or 4,000 years down the road. Job recognized he was alive right then. So here's a real clear declaration of the pre-incarnate existence of Jesus.

He was currently then alive. as their Redeemer from not only their sins, but also their circumstances, because he came to deliver us out of this present evil world. It says in Galatians 1 and verse 3.

All right, great comment, Kevin. Thank you for that. Any other comments, please come now.

AK-6, OK. Yeah, AK-6, OK. Go ahead.

Yeah, amen. And you know what's interesting is like you said, people are so quick to think about what are the deficiencies in other people's lives and how can I straighten them out. And You know, we need to be asking ourselves, what are the deficiencies in my life?

And what do I need to do in relationship to God in order to have those sins forgiven and in order to have those character defects overcome? And so we have to look on our own things. in our own situation and be hard on ourselves and easy on others.

And so these guys, Bildad, Eliphaz, and Zophar, they act like they don't have any sin. you don't see them confessing their own sins or talking about how they need redemption or have experienced redemption. So you're right.

We need to look at our own situation. We need to confess our own sins. We need to seek grace for our own character deficiencies and then just pray for others.

and encourage them in their walk instead of trying to beat them up with a theological baseball bat. Back to you there, Jeff. Yeah, this brings up something that happened to us last night.

This was just such a joy. My grandson, as I've told you guys, has just gone off to Pratt's and is living with a gal. I just decided to kind of...

go a different direction than I would certainly know. And I haven't talked to him for about a month and a half. Well, I accidentally dialed his number yesterday afternoon, and I didn't think he would even call me back because we had not talked.

He did call me back, and he said, Hey, Grandpa, and when you said that, my heart melted. I've got to tell you, I love this kid. And I said, "Hey, what are you doing?" He said, "You called me and I'm calling you back." And I said, "Man, is it good to hear your voice." Max, we talked for an hour and a half, and we're having breakfast on Saturday with he and his girlfriend.

And I said, "Grandma and I are here. you No matter what choices you decide to do and what gives it down, we'll still be your grandparents. We're always going to support you.

We're always going to love you. And I went to bed with joy in my heart last night. And bury all the garbage, and let's move on.

Yeah, amen. Good for you. I'm so glad you're able to make that.

you with Noah as the Bible sets him forth. So, Jeff, that's good news. I'm really pleased to hear that.

That's a partial answer to our prayer for Noah, that God would save him, bring him to repentance, and at least the door of communication is open. and you guys have been able to talk, so just pray that God will work in his heart and draw him back to himself. A good report there, Jeff.

Thanks for that. All right, other comments on our passage, please come now. WB7 of the Isabel.

Roger, please go ahead. Well, I'm just building already upon what we've shared and previously as well, that he was very dedicated to the atonement through the Lamb. And if he knew those early instructions, he no doubt was...

And probably they passed on this information about the tremendous antipathy between Cain and Abel, resulting in the first ever murder. So there is so much tremendous division here in this book. And I imagine that possibly that context of the Cain and Abel trying to describe the difference between God's people and the right you didn't say iniquity there could be that in his mind as well today certainly his friends certainly had a strong polarization between good and evil and they were definitely the ones that were defining it.

And they appeared to not have any problem with their own hearts, as is true here. Thank you, Matt. Yeah, Roger.

And it's amazing to me the self-righteousness that is expressed in these condemnations of Job. You know, it says in Galatians 6:1, "If a brother is overtaken in a fault, you which are spiritual, restore such a one in the spirit of meekness, considering yourself, lest you also be overtaken in the same fault." And so, you know, we're all equally sinners. We're all equally susceptible to falling into sin, and we've all equally committed sin.

And so, therefore, it behooves us to be gracious and gentle and humble and... in the way in which we encourage others to overcome their sins as well. You know, God says that those who say that, you know, stand aside, I'm holier than thou.

He says those people are as tensioned as nostrils. And so none of us are in a place of superiority. when it comes to moral transgression.

And while each of us have different areas in which we struggle, all of us have besetting sins that are an ongoing problem and should be an ongoing source of humility towards ourselves and compassion towards others. You know, this whole issue of verse 25 says, through 27 is wonderful in the sense that notice verse 25 for I know that my Redeemer liveth and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth so when did redemption happen well it happened at the first coming didn't it okay and So in verse 25 he's talking about the first coming of Jesus and the work he's going to do then, which is the work of redemption, which he did on the cross. And then in verse 26 he talks about the second coming, where there's the resurrection.

Verse 26, And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh I shall see God, whom I shall see for myself. and my eyes shall behold and not another. And so he talks about the first coming and his work of redemption and his second coming and the work of resurrection, and they're all compressed together in those verses.

So he understood that there was going to be redemption from sin, and as a result, there was going to be resurrection from the grave. that's a pretty complex theology when you consider the limited degree of revelation that job had at this point in redemptive history all right any other comments anybody wants to make please come down to call time does that extend kevin please go ahead Yeah, KB7, ZXN, and the pattern of worship and faith, I think, that we see exhibited with Job, I think, comes from his lineage, and I'm not going to get to that here. Sure.

But in chapter 19, looking at it, to me it looks like it's broken up really into four sections. First, Job's response to Bildad, and he responds with fury and articulates the abandonment that he's experienced. But then he also, I think it's 23:1, verse 23-24 he requests that his testimony be carved out in stone that it would out of him that this record would be preserved for future generations that it would survive long past his demise.

And we see God honoring that. We have this wonderful testimony today of his faith, of his steadfastness. And then, of course, as we've been talking about, the next section talks about the Redeemer lives.

And I think we see that in the pattern of worship that he, you know, we've been seeing him exercise and the faith he has. But I think also, too, we see at the end of chapter 19 is a stark warning and a warning. to those accusers and warning them that be careful because you continue your accusation and your attacks on me.

It will certainly bring the wrath of God. And you know, false accusation. We all familiar with the old adage, "Stakes and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt you." Well, there's a false claim right there, because Job is saying, "Look, you better watch your words.

You better watch your accusations, because that will bring upon judgment." several things that God hates, and he, among those, is bearing false witness. KB7, is that acceptable? Yeah, amen.

And really, his three friends are lying, aren't they? They're lying about him, and they're drawing false conclusions, and they're really slandering him. And I appreciate you pointing out his counsel to them, in verse 29 where he says to them be you afraid of the sword for wrath brings the punishment for the sword that you may know there's a judgment and so these guys are carrying on as though all the judgments on Joe but there's no judgment for them well that's ridiculous they are going to be called as it says in the Gospel of Matthew to give an account for every idle word they've spoken And so the bottom line is we need to be swift to hear and slow to speak because it's easy, super easy to sin with our mouths.

And so that's why we need to think before we talk and ask ourselves, number one, is this true? Number two, is this biblical? Number three, is this appropriate for this circumstance and this situation and this person to whom I'm talking?

And number four, what will God think about what I said? And as we put our words to those filters, then it helps us to speak that which is good to the use of edifying instead of letting corrupt communication come out of our mouths. So, yeah, Kevin, I'm glad you pointed out that Job was saying to these people, "Are you even thinking about what you're saying?

Let's have a little self-judgment here about what you're saying. And I think that that's an exhortation that's appropriate to all of us. I wanted to comment on verse 19 of chapter 19.

It's 1919, notices. It says, wind up not reciprocating the love to you that you have given to them. And that's Job's situation here.

I mean, all the people, and he lists the members of his household, right? You remember the list before when he said... In verse 13, "He has put my brethren far from me, and my acquaintances are verily estranged from me." And he talks about his kinfolk, his familiar friends, those who dwell in his house, his special servants, even his wife.

and the young children. Everybody doesn't want anything to do with him. They've all rejected him.

Well, I'm sure that many of us have been in that situation that verse 19 describes. All your friends are poor, you, and those you love don't love you back. In fact, they return hatred for love.

David went through that, we see that in the book of Psalms, where his old familiar friend with whom he did eat has lifted up his heel against him. And of course that happened to Jesus in the person of Judas. And of course in the garden all the disciples forsook him and fled.

So what do you do? when everyone you love turns on you and you're there all by yourself. Well, what you do in those situations is you turn to God, and that's what he did here.

We see this pivot away from how people are treating him to what God has done for him. And what God has done for him is that he has redeemed him from his sin. He has promised to resurrect him from the grave and that one day he would see God face to face And it was those three considerations that gave him the strength to be able to keep going on in the face of all of this horrible rejection he was getting from people.

Kevin spoke earlier about how the church, through the centuries, has been attacked viciously, and yet it has continued to trust in the Lord. Because the object of our trust is the church. what people think about us, that it isn't how people treat us.

It isn't the things they say about us. It's what does God say? What has God done?

And what is the future that God has for me? And that's what will sustain you. in the midst of this bad, evil, unjustified rejection that you get from people that you have served and loved, but now they are your worst enemy.

All right, any further comments on this passage, please? Come out to call us back. WB7VZL.

Roger. Please go ahead. Well, the phrase "on this passage," I apologize, but I just wanted to -- your discussion with Kevin and our discussion about -- Abel and Cain prompted me to go back to Jude's insights about Enoch in verse 14.

You know, he's the seventh generation from Adam, and he prophesied, "Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of his holy ones to execute judgment." So there were revelators who were used by God in this case Enoch to bring some of these concepts from the beginning into maturity for the last days as well so we don't know how that worked out with Joe But he was, as you say, very early in his existence in the Middle East. Back to you, Matt. Yeah, thanks for pointing out that passage in Jude, chapter 1, of course, and verse 14 and 15.

Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, "Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of the saints to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed." Now here it is, "and all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him." Both deeds and words are going to be judged in that day. And Enoch understood that there was going to be a day of judgment, and it was going to be inescapable, and there was going to be vast accountability for our conduct. when God returned.

And you know, it's interesting about this man Enoch. It talks about him in Genesis chapter 5, in verse 21 and following. It says, Enoch lived 65 years and begot Methuselah, and Enoch walked with God.

After he begot Methuselah 300 years, he got sons and daughters, and all the days of Enoch were 365 years. And Enoch walked with God. It says it again.

and he was not where God took him. And so apparently God was very pleased with Enoch. Enoch had a close walk with God, and this was prior to any written revelation.

These guys are operating on the oral tradition that's been handed down by Adam and Eve and Seth. And the godly line about how they came into existence, about who God is, about... the redemption he is going to provide for the seed of the woman and for the need to approach him with humility, confession of our own sins, the offering of a sacrifice as an atonement for those sins, to the point that this man was taken up off the earth without dying, just like Elijah was.

is taken up in that chariot. And it's foreshadowing of the fact that when Jesus returns, he's going to take his people up off the earth before he pours out judgment on them. So, yeah, Roger, thanks for pointing out the coming judgment that...

is palmist over and over again by these ancient figures who had a clear understanding of the fundamental truth about God and about salvation. And so they had the same method of salvation we had. Salvation by grace through faith in God's promised Redeemer.

And we're saved by grace through faith in God's provided Redeemer. So salvation has always been the same. And the object of faith has always been the same.

So if you're being trashed by people, turn to Jesus. That's the message of this passage. And the good news is that that message was not just written in a rock.

It was written in a book, and we have that book today. Praise the Lord for that. All right, we are way out of time.

We need to go to prayer. Are there any final prayer requests before Jerry leads us to prayer? Please come out to prayer request.

Just a quick comment. Sir, call that, please go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to point out, thank you, Roger, for that.

That's a so wonderful connection there. KB 7 Zedek said, I was just going to mention, you know, this chapter in verse 25. have been so impactful throughout the ages, both to Israel, but especially to the church.

And Charles Spurgeon referred to that text as the great Easter text in chapter 19, verse 25. And of course, we understand why, especially from our discussion today, KB7 ZXN. Amen.

You know, there are certain verses, Kevin, in the Bible that are just huge. You know, we think of John 3, 16, right? And we think of Romans 8, 28.

And this is another one. This is Job 19, 25 through 27. Those are verses that apply to every situation and every person.

All right, Kevin. Jerry, 8E7ER, go ahead and lead us in prayer, please. All right, let us pray.

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So this baby was serving in the world's leading church. His daughter was in the world. The suspect was also a stranger, a man, and a stranger.

The stranger was being told that he was a stranger behind the bars. So we are the first to arrive at the scene. We have to do something else.

We have to get out of here. He had this picture of the human being, and this driver. He was going to be being moved over to the other end of the street.

So he came. for sensing alcohol use. Thank you David, you're safe.

The message I want to give is not. Faith is salvation, and healing, and love. Faith is salvation.

Uh, salvation, and sacrifice, and salvation, and the time being each. And God will give you praise, and then you're going to go, and then you have a first day. Set.

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Thank you dear Lord. So, we can't tell the story. You know it.

Thank you for all the, you know I tell them this year. First, there's certainly many students in the higher-up state's graduate facilities who have a volunteer service to admit. Also, there's a service they've used in depth in building a practice facility in the area.

See, WB7RKL, the Center for Chief Success in Living, Lately Maintaining balance of health. His wife, my girlfriend, told me that they were going to progress and that the science and the agency was preparing for Earth. Mark, 47, I said, "We've been Earth-wide, trying to remit every motive of the spirit." Max, 47, said, "We're the Earth." They said, "What is it?" I read it.

The science and the agency are passing the word out there. Sorry for the moving of our flight. and we have our chance like this.

Thank you Lord for giving us much angelic that you've wanted us. And for the gift that you've given us. Thank you Lord for the gift.

Your child, every chance that you've given us, we pray for a good outcome. And we appeal from our hearts and we pray for your family. Thank you very much.

Thank you for listening every day. Please keep with us today, Lord, as we do about our life. Help us to live a life pleasing to you, to your own will and faith.

Amen. In the name of Jesus Christ, the Lord, and the Savior. Amen.

Amen. Amen, Jerry. you so much this is wb7mx and i would like to acknowledge dave ke7wki dave thank you for being there to you on the utah str appreciate you being with us today all right just wb7mx net control for the west coast bible study we want to thank all the stations and check in today uh as well as those who stood by to give us a clear operating frequency we meet here seven days a week at 6 a.m in order to read the scriptures understand their meaning, message, and application, and to pray for grace and mercy, for God to give us strength to live out the things that we learn, and for God to meet the needs that are in our circle of fellowship.

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Alphalfa 5 Yankee with today's joke. Quebec, Alphalfa 5 Yankee, go ahead. How do the mountains stay warm in winter?

How do the mountains stay warm in winter? Um, let's see. see, they snuggle under a blanket of snow.

Comment? Very close. They wear snow caps.

They wear snow caps. Okay, I heard a comment out there. Comment, go ahead.

I was wrong. I was going to say they put on a coat. They put on a coat, yeah, okay So they wear snow caps, well, yes That works too, Beck Thank you for that, that's great Yeah, sorry we missed the joke yesterday But appreciate you being there today Yeah, we had a big conversation yesterday So, anyway, thanks for standing by there, Beck Sure appreciate you and the humor that you bring to the net there at the end All right, any other comments?

Go ahead I could always wear a coat of snow. Yeah, a coat of snow and, yeah, or snuggle under a blanket of snow, yep. Or wear a snow cap.

That all makes sense. Um... That's good.

All right. Any other comments? Go ahead.

Well, you can certainly combine the two, you know, under a blanket of snow with wearing a snow cap. Okay, there's a double going on here, but go ahead there, Ted. Right, yeah, yeah, that's for sure.

I remember that one, and that's pretty funny. all right any other comments please come down actually I have heard that joke since I was about 17 years old so yes it's been around a while but you know it's a good way to remember the theology of the Sadducees you know they were the theological liberals of their day and The Pharisees were the theological conservatives, and so there was a big conflict between them. And as you said, the Sadducees were really the religious humanists.

They denied the supernatural. And so while the Pharisees had their religious legalism, the Sadducees were just kind of like, well, You know, religion's good, but don't take it too seriously, over. All right.

Good to have you. 5 Yankee, go ahead. Now, could you repeat what was said that she hadn't heard since she was 17?

I didn't hear it. Yeah, so the joke goes like this. Do you know why the Pharisees were so, pardon me, why the Sadducees were so sad.

And the reason why the Sadducees were so sad is because they didn't believe in the resurrection. Okay, thank you. Yeah, and so I didn't really state that very well.

It's like, They're sad, you see, because they don't believe in the resurrection. Yeah, they don't see it. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, thanks, Greg. All right, other comments, please come down. I think there was somebody else out there in the background.

Please give it a try. Okay, I think that's Brian, KJ7PWM. Brian, go ahead, and everybody listen up.

Yeah, copy, that's correct. Yeah, you got it. Thank you for that, Brian.

Alright, any other comments, please come now. Alright, I'm hearing nothing, this is WB7MAX, I'll be clearing QRT And we will see you all tomorrow. God bless each one..

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