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at this WB7MAX net control for the West Coast Firewall Study we're going to be looking at Colossians chapter 3 verses 12 through 17 that's Colossians 3, 12 through 17 and I appreciate you guys looking at that passage ahead of time being ready to talk about what's there any more check-ins in the West Coast Bible Study please come down with your call sign B-K-E uh jim in 7bke go ahead yeah what were the scriptures this morning i just come back walking in the room yeah jim no worries it's colossians 3 12 through 17 colossians 3 12 through 17 qsl yeah i heard you i thought i heard you mason not peter and i didn't catch that i didn't know if we'd move N7BK, I got you in the book for now, this morning. Yeah, real good. Peter is one of the people who checks in here.

So anyway, there's Phillip, K6HSV. Good morning, Phillip. See you there on Hathaway Bay SDR.

Appreciate you being there. And, Phil, we got you checked in. Kilo 6, Hotel Sierra Victor.

All right. Any other check-ins, please come down. Hello, Mike.

Fox truck. All right, there is Will, Keel Mike 5 Fox truck. Good morning, Will.

How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing okay this morning. No new prayer requests.

KM5F. All right, copy that. Doing well.

No new prayer requests. Appreciate you being there, Will. All right, that's Will, KM5F.

All right, any other check-ins, please come down. All right, thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. *Loud Alright, we have about a minute to go before we get started with the West Coast Bible Study.

We continue to look for check-ins on this beautiful Saturday morning. Any more check-ins to the West Coast Bible Study, please come now at your call time. WB7VZL.

Good morning, Roger, WB7VZL. Really looking forward to the Bible study with you today, and may the Lord bless you as you go to church today. How are you doing?

Yeah, and today is a blessed Sabbath experience where we get to see our family Lord willing, all the vicissitudes of travel, but yes, we hope to meet them at the church service. So, yeah, they dropped into the Tri-Cities and we're going to rent a vehicle and come in. And did it.

So we haven't seen him yet, but yeah, it should be a fascinating experience today. Thank you for thinking of us. And yeah, I read the passage of scripture in the NIV upstairs this morning.

It is a wonderful passage. So I'm praising the Lord for that. Thank you for your prayers for the service tomorrow as well, too.

And back to you, Matt. Yeah, real good. We've got you on our prayer list there, Roger, for the memorial service for your dad, Melvin, tomorrow, and all the relatives there, and Albert, who's going to be preaching.

So that's on our list, and we'll be praying about that. All right, well, you're going to be busy with all the company and all the... activities and Roger I know God's hand is going to be with you in that and directing every step of the way for his glory for the comfort of his people and for the salvation for those that he's drawing to himself all right Roger WV some detail good to have you with us all right let's see who else do we have there's Peter KJ 7b a good morning Peter good to have you with us appreciate seeing you there Let's see.

Yep, we've got you there in Utah. Okay, there he is. Peter says good morning to everyone.

Peter, thank you for that response to your call sign. Always appreciate those greetings. All right, so that's Peter, KJ7BA.

We've got checked in. let me just look over my SDRs here and see if we got any new folks and then we'll get started with our Bible study all right and that would like to acknowledge gene k7g wr good morning gene good to see you there on the Utah SDR appreciate you being with us jeans really faithful he's there virtually every day so appreciate your your presence with us. Alright, I think we've got everyone else checked in off of Utah.

Just running through it one last time here. Gotta sort out all the different call signs. Alright, we are done.

It's time for us to get started with the Bible study. We've got our SDRs caught up. We've got all our voice check in.

And... Anyway, our passage today is Colossians 3, 12 through 17. Colossians 3, 12 through 17.

And anyway, I'll go ahead and read that passage for us when the time comes. But what's going on here... is that Paul is in the practical application section of the book of Colossians.

And he was telling us yesterday that we need to put our affections on things above, that is, maintain our focus on heaven. We saw that in verses 1 to 4, chapter 3. And then we saw that we needed to mortify or put to death our sins on earth.

And we saw that in... in chapter 3, verses 5 through 11 there, which we looked at. And now today, we're going to be looking at this section that tells us to put on godly virtues.

And so yesterday it was like, don't do these things. Today it's going to be... carry out these things in your life.

And, you know, that's what the process of growth in godliness and grace consists of. It's putting away some things and start practicing other things. And what I've found is that as I practice the good things, the bad things, tend to be put away on their own.

You know, it's like thinking bad thoughts. You know, you're not supposed to think bad thoughts. Maybe it's anger, maybe it's revenge, maybe it's sexual lust, whatever it is.

You know, just to stop thinking and go to zero is pretty much impossible. What I find is that as I replace the evil thoughts with good thoughts, then those bad thoughts go away. When I start praying or singing a hymn or quoting a scripture verse back to myself, the good thoughts push out the bad.

And so the good behavior pushes out the bad behavior. And so we see over and over again in Ephesians, for example, let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to be is to vetify it. Let him that stalls steal no more, but rather let him work and give.

Don't lie, speak the truth. And so over and over again, the key to putting away sins is practicing the opposite positive virtue of that sin. So that's where our focus is today, and this section that we're going to be reading together will help us see that.

But before we get started with our scripture reading, I want to ask Mike, W7TWO. Mike, if you would open in prayer for us today, please. Go ahead, Mike.

Thank you. Mike, W7TW, we're not hearing you. Are you going to open and pair for us?

Go ahead. Okay. You got a problem, no worries.

We'll have someone else open a pair, Mike. Roger, WB7VZL, go ahead and open a pair for us, please. I heard Mike the second time quite nicely.

Mike, did you get it fixed? Over. Sounds good.

Sounds great. Over. Yeah, go ahead, Mike, and open a prayer for us, please.

Amen Mike, thank you so much for that prayer, I really appreciate that. May the Lord be pleased to grant each of those requests. All right, this WB7MAX, our scripture passage is in Colossians 3, 12 through 17.

Let me just read that to you. I'll be reading out of the King James Version. That's Colossians 3, 12 through 17.

It says there, Put on, therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, a heart of mercy, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering, forbearing one another and forgiving one another. If any man have a quarrel against any, even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfectness.

and let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also you are called in one body, and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another, in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. and whatsoever you do in word or deed do all in the name of the lord jesus giving thanks to god and the father by him all right that's colossians 3 12 through 17 any comments on the passage please come down to call how does that exist kb7 zxn go ahead Well, I'll get the ball rolling.

What a beautiful area of text here. I know in my walk early on and as a saint for some time, Paul's illustration of putting off the old and putting on the new is just easy to really understand. It is quite powerful.

we grow in faith and years, I suppose, too, the substantial nature of that just becomes more prominent and more evident. And as you pointed out, you know, the last section of text before this is the mortification of sin. I'm glad you described it that way because that's exactly what he's talking about.

It's putting to death sin. SIN IN OUR LIFE AND NOT TO PLEASE GOD BUT BECAUSE WHO WE ARE IN CHRIST BECAUSE WE ARE SAVED AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW AS IF SOMEONE IS OUT OF PRISON YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND WHEN YOU GET HOME YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE OFF THOSE PRISON CLOTHES AND PUT ON A NEW WARDROBE AND REALLY IT'S EVEN MORE DRAMATIC THAN THAT REALLY AS WE He's really illustrating taking off our grave clothes and putting on a new wardrobe. And as we start out this text, I love the fact that, first of all, he points out that we're chosen.

It is God that initiates all this. Our position in Christ is... because of God.

He first states that we are chosen, as we studied about in the first, well, Ephesians 1, 4 and such, that he has chosen us. We are saints. We are set aside.

We are Then we are beloved. It's his love. We love him because he first loved us.

But then, as you pointed out, Max, when we take off the old, putting on the new. In this new wardrobe, he starts out with five virtues we can all understand. And the virtue of compassion.

The virtue of kindness. the virtue of humbleness, the virtue of gentleness, and the virtue of patience. And those are things that he has called us to put on as our new wardrobe.

And as we grow in Christ, it's important that we really, as we focus on those things above, that we really purposefully tried to put on. We don't try it. We put on that wardrobe, and we try to bury those old clothes of sin, of, you know, as you pointed out, sexual immorality, immorality, the greed, the things that lead to conflict and relationships.

And we put on this new wardrobe here that he has listed out here for us so beautifully. KB7, ZXM. You know, Kevin, I really appreciate the visual image of putting off and putting on.

And as you said, when someone comes home from prison, They put off the old prison clothes and they put on new civilian clothes. They dress differently, they behave differently, they act differently, because they're in a completely different situation now. They've been freed from condemnation and they're now accepted in the society.

of the general population. And that's a great illustration, Kevin. I like that.

And it's the same way with us. You know, there's two things here. You know, in regeneration, we have put off the old nature and we have put on the new nature.

And then in sanctification, we are putting off the old behavior and we are putting on the new behavior that flow out of those two natures. So that putting off and putting on God did originally in our salvation when we were born again and the old nature was put away and we're given a new nature. So the old behavior then, on an ongoing basis, is put away, and the new behavior, on an ongoing basis, is practiced.

So our behavior follows the saving work of God in the work of regeneration. So, yeah, that's quite a list there in verse 12. I appreciate you pointing out the fact that he starts there as the elect of God.

And, you know, a lot of people wonder, well, am I one of God's elect? Well, are you trusting Jesus as your Savior? If so, then you're one of God's elect.

Are you practicing this conduct that's listed here in verses 12 through 17? Of course you're not practicing it perfectly, right? But it is the dominating characteristic of your life.

It is the direction of your behavior, and it is the desire of your heart. And that being the case, that indicates, yes, that you were chosen before the foundation of the world for salvation because that salvation is visible in your life in the transformation and the reorientation of how you behave. and what it is that you want to do with the rest of your life.

So great comments there, Kevin. Appreciate you pointing that out. The net would like to acknowledge Carol, KK7TPO, and also Aaron, KD7ES.

Thank you both for showing up there on the Utah SDR. Alright, well those two check-ins. Any more comments on the passage, please come down with your call time.

We could be seven of these at home. Roger, please go ahead. Well, every Friday you have lifted up, Autumn, and I appreciate that, and I wanted to let you know that your prayers are bearing fruit.

We actually chose to rendezvous through the discussion that my wife and I had. We chose to take Autumn to her favorite Indian restaurant. I mean, that is about the only place that she would love to go.

And we had a wonderful rendezvous. And for you who don't know the background, Autumn is putting on those new clothes, so to speak, in a legal sense. She's halfway through her probation, and she's practicing putting those on.

And we just had a very pleasant day. The weather was perfect. It was main street of Walla Walla, outdoors portion of the restaurant.

And just wanted to let you know, thank you for helping her put on halfway through her probation. So thank you, Kevin, for that illustration, over. Yeah, real good, Roger.

Thank you for that good report on Autumn. You know, we're still praying for her salvation, but I'm really pleased that she is reorienting at least her external behavior to fit into civil society instead of violating its standards and its norms. So yeah, there's a physical, visible illustration of someone changing their behavior from the past and engaging in a whole new direction of behavior in the present, at least in the legal sense and the judicial sense, which, as you said, Roger, is an illustration of the spiritual transformation that, of course, she still needs to have.

Roger, thank you for that. All right, other comments on our passage, Colossians 3, 12 through 17. Please come down to your call time.

Thanks for watching! Yeah, this is WB7VZO. Roger, please go ahead.

Just following up here on a passage there. in one body and be thankful. And I think that's probably one of the greatest attributes of a changed heart.

You know, I haven't chosen with her autistic nature. to put her on the spot, so to speak, as to the event in which she was born again or felt the peace of Christ. her mental meltdown, of course, is...

she's still, so to speak, in recovery. But, yeah, that peace of Christ truly in her heart, for your heart. So that is...

even after you've been reborn, and that continues to be a high bar, you know. Over. Yeah, Roger, thank you for that.

Do you perceive that Autumn has become safe? What do you think her status is, or do you know? Over.

Well, she... has a very deep respect for the Holy Spirit and in her Pentecostal upbringing that is a requirement. and it was repent and baptism.

I've never asked for her baptismal experience. As we know, it's not part of the gospel. But yeah, she listens to quite a few Pentecostal-type preaching services on her own and reads her Bible.

So yeah. it's quite quite evident what she was here over yeah copy that does she ever talk about Jesus and trusting in Jesus for her salvation you know a lot of people surround themselves with religious figures and religious messages in religious activities but the question is is what is the object of their trust for their acceptance with God and the object of their trust in particular is needs to be Jesus Christ, specifically, that we are trusting in Jesus for the forgiveness of our sins. Does she ever express a faith in Jesus for her forgiveness and her reconciliation?

Over. Well, she has been mentored by someone in her past that the Yahushua of the Older Testament is the Christ of the New she has this understanding what the English version of Jesus is really not the true name so she has a a name that has to be correct, so to speak. And there is the actual English version of Joshua.

is not where she should be placing her understanding of the name. Over. Yeah, copy that.

I mean, a lot of people are obsessed with supposedly getting the name right. Of course, we know that a number of titles are given to our Lord Jesus Christ. And, you know, it's not faith.

in a name, it's faith in the person who is represented by that name that really matters. And so we can call him Jesus, we can call him Savior, we can call him Lord, we can, you know, refer to him as... You know, the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

There's lots of different names that the Bible gives to our Lord Jesus Christ. Dozens, in fact. But the issue is not, you know, the name in particular.

And if we don't get the name exactly right, somehow we're out in left field. I mean, names matter. I don't want to indicate that they don't.

But what really matters is the person who is represented by that name. And is he the object of our trust that is the Jesus of the Bible? Or is it just...

an obsession with a naming that really doesn't even descend into who it is that's represented by that name. And I guess that's something that maybe can be a point of discussion in the future. Is it the name or is it the person that's represented by that name that you're really trusting in?

Might be a point of discussion there. Roger, go ahead. Yeah, I'm quite confident that, as you have expressed, that the person is where she's worshiping.

I've asked her, I leaned in for a blessing. over the hood. And she readily or was able to do that.

And I have to--I told my wife, "We have to be aware in our interactions that she is in the present. First of all, well not first of all, but here she is the poorest of the poor, so to speak, and has you know, here she's in the presence of a pastor and we come with quite a bit of baggage ourselves and reputation and that she was so dependent upon us. I don't know where she's wants to retain her anonymity and we don't lean in on that respect to her mental programming with the autistic nature that she has.

So anyway, it's quite a process. I think this word in the NASB, and I think it may be in your version too, King James, forbearing. That the forbearing is kind of what we do with autumn and time.

Yeah, copy that. All right, Roger, thanks for sharing on that. And I think the discussion is useful for any of us who are evangelizing folk and making sure that it's not just a general belief in God, it's not just a general...

religious activity and awareness and and and acknowledgment but that they have a specific trust in a specific person that is described in the Bible by the name Jesus and his saving work and have a new citizenship, a new place where we reside, it's important that it is a process sometimes of putting on these virtues. And it is an important one. under ordinary circumstances because their interests are different, their personalities are different, maybe they've got things that are annoying to you, and yet it's the nature of Christianity that we are able to look past or accommodate things or have forbearance toward those things that ordinarily would cause them to say, well, you know, I'd never go anywhere or do anything with that person.

And yet what we see at work here in the scribes in this passage is kindness, humility, meekness, patience, forbearance, forgiveness, love, and all of these things help us to overcome that natural friction that takes place in our interaction with other people, and especially in our interaction with other Christians. When we were really, really offensive to Him and repulsive to Him, His love overcame that. And so when we find people that are offensive to us, love needs to overcome that and extend kindness and mercy and patience and compassion to that person.

in spite of the natural abrasiveness and annoying nature that those people may have toward us. And so that verse 14, and above all these things, that's quite the list that was there before. You look at verse 12, okay?

Mercy, kindness, humility of mind, meekness, long-suffering, forbearing, forgiving one another. And then above all of that, verse 14, put on love. sometimes love means that we need to correct people or that we need to address a sin that's there and that's where the forgiveness comes in right?

as you talk through the conflict and forgiveness comes and reconciliation is achieved but this is a wonderful list of virtues that help us to get along with folk that ordinarily we would never get along with And those are certainly our family members, our fellow members of the church, and, of course, our fellow members in the larger community. All right, other comments. Please come now.

86J. Bob. KG6J, Jerry, please go ahead.

Yeah, I'm a babe in the Word, but I'm going to stick my foot out. And as I look at the person, the encouragement put on the new man, and I'm reminded of the attitude where Jesus focuses at chapter 5, where he encouraged them with the blessing that follows from doing these things. And then, David also, I believe, spoke about this in Psalm 37, but he contrasted it with what happens if you don't, if you're not doing these things.

And then the positive What happens if you do? Hopefully I'm not off track. That means I'm safe.

Jerry, that's a wonderful comment. Not only are you not off base, you're spot on. Jerry was saying, for those who couldn't hear him, that along with this list that is given to us in Colossians 3, he brought up the Beatitudes.

And, you know, you're exactly right, Jerry. The Beatitudes are a description of what a Christian looks like, how they think and how they view themselves and how they treat other people and how they view God. And so the Beatitudes are a perfect parallel with our passage here in Colossians 3:12-17.

And then Jerry mentioned Psalm 37, which talks about the blessings. And indeed, some of the Beatitudes are taken straight out of Psalm 37. And so, yeah, all of these virtues and the Beatitudes, all of these virtues, spoken of here in Colossians 3:12-17, all of the virtues spoken of in Psalm 37, all of those are what it means to look like Jesus.

All of those are what it means to follow Jesus, and all of those are directives as to how we are to treat other people. For example, one of the Beatitudes is, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God." And what is this passage here in Colossians 3:12-17? But how to make peace with the people of God.

So, Jerry, thank you for bringing in those parallel passages, the Beatitudes and Psalm 37, and how that they reinforce and further develop some of the concepts that are contained here in Colossians 3:12-17. A good comment there, Jerry. Other comments, please come down.

I was going to say, okay i heard a voice uh please try again kb7 is that extent okay that's kevin kevin go ahead and just wonderful comments and and observations and and i was just reflecting on too in the context that paul is sharing this in the application because you know he has been dealing with Paul's teachers and those that are saying, okay, Jesus is great and his grace is great, but you need to do these other things to really be right with God. And Paul is just kicking that right out the door here with this because... These things, you know, putting off the old and putting on the new, it's not to please God, but because God has already done the work.

He has, through the Holy Spirit, transformed us from death unto life. He has already created us in new creation for good works. And in light of that, and I love the way he brings us together with the love of God.

Because as you think about it, the emphasis is, you know, the agape love of God is expressed to be present and to come forth. And it is a daily process and awareness and renewal and prayer. But I just wanted to, again, I think one of the points Paul's overall making here, making overall here is is the fact that this is because Yeah, Kevin, I think it's important to make that distinction, is that we don't do these things to earn our salvation.

We do these things because we are saved. And while doing these things certainly pleases God, it doesn't earn His favor in terms of providing us with salvation. So thank you for pointing that out.

This is the rebuttal to the false teaching that says you've got to earn your salvation. No, we practice these things because we're saved. and we practice them not to earn God's favor, but in order to express our gratitude to God for the favor He has shown to us already.

Okay, I want to talk for a minute because we're running out of time here. I want to talk about verses 16 and 17. Verse 16, "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another." You know, it's so important that our thinking be driven by passages out of the Scripture.

And, you know, it's so important that our minds be saturated with the Word of God, that it dwells in us not just as a small part of our life, but there's a rich deposit. of the Word of God regarding a wide variety of subjects and issues in our minds so that whenever we talk to someone or whenever we think about what we need to say, some scripture passage comes to mind or some scripture perspective comes to mind and we use that to guide our conversations. You know, elsewhere it says, "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how to answer every man." And of course, that salt is the salt of the Word of God.

So the bottom line is, is we need the Word of God to dwell richly in our minds and then to guide what we say to other people. And that means meditating in the Scriptures constantly and learning what they say. We may not be able to memorize verses constantly.

exactly, but we do need to know what they say so they guide our conversation with others. And so then the importance of music. In psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

So we've got the word of God and we've got the music of God. And both of those things. guide our attitudes and our speech, our inward conversation with ourselves, and our external communication with other people.

And then verse 17, whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by Him. So if I speak or if I act, I need to speak and act in a way that accurately represents the Lord Jesus. And then, you know, it's like, would Jesus have me to do this?

Would Jesus have me to say that? And if so, then say it and do it. And if not, then don't say it and don't do it.

So there needs to be a filter in our minds. that we take everything through. And that filter is this.

Is this in accordance with the Word of God? Is this something Jesus would want me to say? Is this something Jesus would want me to do?

And if so, then say it and do it. And if not, then don't say it and don't do it. And so I think there's two really wonderful filters there.

The Word of Christ... and the will of Christ, guiding our speech, guiding our inward communion with God, and guiding our conduct and our speech with those that are around us. All right, we are clear out of time.

We need to close in prayer. And Jerry, 8070R is going to close in prayer for us, but before he does that, are there any final prayer requests? Please come down to your call sign.

All right, the net would like to acknowledge Jeff, AK6OK. Jeff, see you there on the Utah SDR. Thank you for being there.

All right, Jerry, 8070R, go ahead and close in prayer for us, please. W7RJD, right to pump, WW17, here's one passable. For the people to stand through those holy times and help them to continue on.

Here is AI-73 field. Please. And it's Jim, K77WF, K77SJ, and Patrick.

He is at home now and is waiting on guys to come up to receive an appointment. Period. for the establishment of a dinner and a conceding.

Oh, they do say the two two is. Good firm, good church, and good pastor. So if they're down on the mountain, they're looking at the rest of the Bible study, Saturday, you actually had five times, and it was just flat.

So you're... You're going to have to recover from this. So you're going to have to go through this case.

You're going to have to go through the news. You can call Bob and see. You're going to have to go through this.

And that's the thing. You said it anyway. Jerry, you...

Standing by. Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee was the joke of the day. Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, go ahead.

Now, Pastor Betts, I think you can really relate to this joke. Why does the hurricane have bad vision? Why does the hurricane have bad vision?

Because it only has one eye. There you go. Good man.

You're so smart. Well, that's a good joke, too. Yeah.

So anyway, yeah, it's a cyclops. But anyway, I'm starting to get my vision back a little bit. Well, pretty well in that other eye.

So I'm grateful for that. Some of these guys that used to be with us, I still think about them from time to time and pray for. And just pray that he's doing well there.

But thanks for that, Max. KB7 is at exam. WB7VZL, roger, go ahead.

Yes, thank you, Kevin, for bringing Bob up. And from time to time, I think of him and also his son, Robert, I used to have contact with him. He's a busy, busy pastor as well in California, and his spouse doesn't necessarily care for the noise in the ham radio, and I think he was trying to work out a schedule or isolation to not disturb her atmosphere, sleep, etc.

So some of these vicissitudes are a challenge, but I'm glad to hear about the connection between Steve's -- Steve Dennis and the sun so that we can let Bob know that we're thinking about it. But thank you, Kevin, for your interest in that relationship. Well, old him sometimes just fade away, you know.

That's unfortunately, age has a way of fading, fading our footprint. And, yeah, anyway, thank you very much. Thanks for the joke.

Yeah, that is good to hear. Yeah, you're right. I was trying to think of a metaphor.

Old hams just drift away, kind of like those old VFOs, you know, that can't stay on frequency. Pretty soon we just drift right off the spectrum there. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.