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Head out. Really pleased to hear that. Second thing is, when are they going to have you preach at church again?

I'm supposed to preach May 30th, the end of the month here. That will be the next time I get to preach. All right, real good, Ed.

Well, you have a good time at church today when you go, and we'll... be praying for you as the 30th approaches. So, thanks for that.

All right, that's at N6XOH. All right, any other prayer requests or check-ins, please come down. ZXN.

Kevin, KB7ZXN. Yeah, I sent just a brief report and kind of be connected to some of my comments regarding the text here. And just a couple of things.

Let you use your discretion to read what portion of it you think appropriate to kind of make the point of, you know, where families are and their decline in the U.S. today. Copy that.

I got it. I'm looking it over right now, and clearly I won't read it all, but I will read portions of it. So, Kevin, thanks for sending that.

Copy that. Okay. WB7MX, your net control for the West Coast Bible Study.

Any more check-ins this morning, please come down. Alright, we got KJ7 PWM. Good morning, Brian.

How are you doing up there on the farm? Good morning. Happy to be here.

Alright, doing good. Happy to be here. Any more prayer requests, Brian?

Negative on new prayer requests. Alright, negative on new prayer requests. Copy that.

Alright, that's Brian, KJ7 PWM. Got him checked in. Alright, any other check-ins?

Please come out. Okay. I'm not going to let you.

I don't see it, I don't think so. I thought we were going to find a way out. All right, this is WB-7MX.

We're about ready to start our vital study in a minute and a half. Any last minute check-ins please come now. Thank you.

Alright Kevin, I have scanned through that entire document. I will read portions of that. Thank you for sending that.

Alright Kevin, KB7 is at the next exit. Alright, WB7MAX here. It is about time for us to get started.

Any last minute check-ins please come now. *train noise* The net would like to acknowledge Peter KJ7DA. Good morning Peter.

See you there on the Utah SDR. Thank you for being there with us. That is Peter KJ7DA.

And Peter says good morning to everyone. Peter, thank you for that comeback. Always appreciate seeing them.

Okay, let's see. We've got Will. Kilowatt 5 Foxtrot.

Will is in Idaho Falls today. So Will, appreciate you being here on the net with us. And may the Lord's blessing be on you as you travel.

That's Will, KM5 Foxtrot on the FDR in Idaho Falls. Okay, let's see. Who else do we have?

K7GWR, that's Gene. Good morning, Gene. Good to have you with us.

Appreciate you being there, brother, and pulling up a chair to the table. So let's see, who else do we have on our SDRs? I think we've got everybody on Utah.

And let me check Half Moon Bay here for a second and get it called up. And yeah, we've got Peter there as well on Half Moon Bay and we've got a mobile station. Okay, real good.

All right, any last minute check in? Roger, you out there? WB7VCL, I think he's out visiting his sister today.

Roger, you there? Yeah, he said yesterday he was going to go north and be with the Candide N7DIT. So anyway, Al, KJ7228, let's pray for Roger, WB7VZL.

Roger is visiting Candy in 7DIT, and she has antenna problems. And he was going to go up there and try to get that sorted out. So let's pray for wisdom for Roger in sorting out Candy's...

N7DIT's antenna problems. Copy? Good copy.

I do remember them mentioning that antenna issue that might have been an incident getting on the air. So I will add them. Thank you.

All right, Al. Thank you. Appreciate that.

All right. Al's always on the job there. Okay.

Let's get started with our Bible study. We are in Ephesians 6:1-9. And this section we're dealing with started really back in chapter 5 in verse 22, where it talks about wives and husbands and their relationship with each other.

And so this section we're dealing with deals with the roles and responsibilities in the area of relationships. And so there are three major relationship situations that are dealt with in our passage. One has to do with the relationship between husbands and wives.

And we have in that different roles. The husband leads and loves and provides and protects. And the wife submits and shows reverence and respect to her husband.

And then we today are going to look at the relationship between children and parents. Once again, a relationship where there are different roles. There's submission and there is leadership.

And then, of course, the relationship between employers and employees. And once again, there's a situation here of submission and leadership. So leadership has its responsibilities, and God is very clear about the fact that leadership is supposed to be a position of trust in which you lead in such a way as to achieve the best interest of those that you are leading.

And with reference to those who are in a position of submission, their job is to vigorously seek to implement the agenda and the goals of the one who is doing the leading. So we have submission, we have leadership, and that's what we see in each of these husband/wife relationship, parent/child relationship, and employer/employee relationship. So that's where we're at, and of course we see that in the Trinity, don't we, where It gives direction to the Son, and the Son carries out the direction of the Father.

Even though they're equal in worth and value, they do have different roles and responsibilities in the relationship and where they stand in that relationship in the area of their work. That is how they carry out God's decree. So this shouldn't seem strange to us.

We are modeling God in the relationships between the members of the Trinity where we have both equality and superiority and submission in the same time in different realms. Quality in the area of being, submission and superiority in the area of work and activity. So children have just as much worth as parents do.

But they still need to obey their parents and employees have just as much worth as their employers but they need to follow what the employer directs them to do. Right. So that's where we're at today.

Before we get started we want to open our time together in prayer. And so Ed in 6XOH if you could open in prayer for us today I would sure appreciate that. Sure, let us pray.

Heavenly Father, we come to you this morning. We ask that you bless our Bible study, that we all can gain a blessing from it, that we can take these precious scriptures that we are reading today and apply them to our own lives. watch over each and every one of us.

He is fast back, he leads out, brings us the front of life. As we study these passages this morning, as we watch over each and every one of us. Help each one of us here to Be ready when you come to take us home.

We pray in Jesus' name. Amen. N-6-X-O-H.

Amen, Ed. Thank you so much for that prayer. May the Lord be pleased to grant all of that.

Okay, I'm going to ask Jerry AE-70R to read for us today. Jerry, if you could read for us, please, Ephesians chapter 6, verses 1 through 9. That's Ephesians 6, 1 to 9 there, Jerry.

Go ahead. Children. Say to your parents and Lord, for this is right.

Honor your father and mother, which is the first commandment of a common. So that it may be well with you and that you may live long on the earth. Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and expression of the Lord.

Play, be obedient to those who are in your master, according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, and sincerity in your heart, as to Christ. Not by way of over-eye service, and men from day, but as slaves of Christ, doing your will's work from the heart of you. With good will render fruit to the Lord, and not the net.

Knowing that whatever good things each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or priest. And masters, do the same thing to them which give up threatening, knowing that both are masters, and yours is in heaven. And there is no partiality with the exact healing that I am here.

Jerry, thank you for that reading. Good reading. Before we get started, you know, we want to recognize that Ephesians chapter 5, verses 22 to 33, and Ephesians chapter 6, verses 1 through 4, Both deal with the family.

All right, we have husband-wife relationship in chapter 5 We have parent-child relationship in chapter 6 The Bible contains a theology of the family It contains the theology as to its structure. It's supposed to be one man and one woman married together for life and being fruitful and multiplying, having children if they are able to do so, and then raising those children for the Lord for the next generation. Now, we all know that the family has suffered a severe breakdown in our culture and in our day.

And Kevin, KB7's FedExSyn sent me... a document and I want to just speak to a couple of things in that document. It's quite long.

But what it is, it's the U.S. Household Accomposition Census. And so this is based on the most recent Census Bureau Pew Research Center and academic data updated through 2025.

So this is hot off the press. The executive summary of this document says, the American household has undergone a dramatic transformation over the last 50 years. We would certainly all agree with that.

It goes on to say, married couple households now represent fewer than half of all US households for the first time in recorded history. People living alone, people cohabiting without marriage, and multi-generational arrangements that children and grandchildren living with parents are all rising. The traditional nuclear family, two married parents with children under one roof, continues its long-term structural decline.

And the fact is, is that married couple households, that is the traditional nuclear families that the Bible describes, only 47% of all families in the U.S. fall into that category. So more than half of the families or living situations are single person households, single parent households, couples cohabiting together without being married or roommate non-family shared household and that is really a sad commentary on the decline of the family in our culture in 1975 that's the year I got married okay 50 years ago In 1975, nearly two-thirds of all households were married couples at 66 percent.

By 2025, 50 years later, that figure had dropped to 47 percent, a loss of nearly 20 percentage points in 50 years. And so what we're seeing is a decline in the families. And the reason why is because we're seeing a departure from a biblical worldview and a biblical perspective on marriage, on having children, and on sexuality and where sexual expression is appropriate and where it is not.

So anytime you see a decline in the family, you see a decline in the culture and in the future of the nation, because the family is at the heart of the nation. And therefore, when the family breaks down, the nation breaks down as well. So that's why we see the rising crime and all the other dislocating factors that are causing chaos in our society.

Kevin, KB7ZX, thank you for sending that. There's lots more here. I'm sure Kevin will be glad to send this to anyone who would like it.

But, Kevin, thank you for sending that and giving us some perspective. All right. Having seen what the direction is, that it's negative, let's talk about how we can reverse that with a positive direction.

In particular, you know, encouraging young people to get married and stay married and have kids. and raise them as our passage says here in verse 4 in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. All right, I have gone on here for a little while.

Are there other comments anybody would like to make on this subject of Ephesians 6, 1-9 or anything else related to the theology of the family in the Bible? Please come down with your call, sir. ZXN.

ZXN, Kevin, go ahead. Maybe to that extent. Thank you, Max.

And I wanted to just get some context, too, in addition to that. I don't want to present that because as we look here in Ephesians, you know, we've been looking in our spirit-filled life, if you will. Ephesians 4 really talking more generally in the unity.

and the love of the body of Christ. Of course, as you pointed out, Max, the most intimate part of that, our relationship is in marriage there, and of course the marriage of the church to Christ as the bride of Christ, and being spirit-filled. And then we get right down into the household here in Ephesians 6.

And keep in mind, you know, oftentimes you mention Ephesians 6, people first initially think of putting on the armor of God and the spiritual warfare that we are involved in. Well, that's exactly what we are involved in. But it really often is, this is where Satan attacks.

And that is the family. We've seen that in our lifetimes, especially as these numbers dramatically reveal and tragically reveal. And we see the fallout of that in our culture, the brokenness of that, the abortion rates of that, the abortion pill, all these things, the broken families and the cohabitation just shacking up and the decline of the family.

And it's even more dramatic when you married figures. You know, even 71, I think it was like 71% were married, households were married. 68, it was like 81%.

So incredible decline. But one of the first things that Paul points out in the household is to teach your children the ways of God. Admonish them in God's ways.

This is established as principle from the beginning. God establishes, I think, his duty around the 6:6-7 makes this point too, and all throughout the Bible, to raise our children in the ways of God. How many times, I don't know, I can't count, how many times I've heard, "Oh, I'm not going to teach my children about the Bible or Jesus.

I'll just let him figure it out on his own when he's, you know, when he's an adult." Well, by that time, you know, I They've been influenced by so many evil ways and it's no wonder we're in the state we're in. KB7, is that extended? Yeah, Kevin, well said.

I appreciate you pointing out this anti-child agenda. that we see rising in our culture. It started with the overpopulation nonsense, that, "Oh, the world's becoming too populated.

We've got to stop having kids." And then, of course, there is the whole abortion thing, which you mentioned. where people are killing their own children. We've had over 60 million abortions in the United States since Roe v.

Wade was legalized. And even though it's now been overturned, individual states are still allowed to practice abortion. Here in Oregon, you can have an abortion for up to nine months.

the day before you go into labor you can kill your baby and it's legal and then of course there's not only this overpopulation fallacy there's not only the abortion but then there's the voluntary sterility I was talking with a couple the other day and they said oh we're not breeders we have a dog and so they think they're doing their part for the planet somehow by not having children and You know, all of this is a reflection of two things. Number one, selfishness. Raising children is messy, it's hard, it's costly.

And so there are some negative downsides to having children. We all know that. But there's also some phenomenal blessings to having children.

and the blessings far outweigh the difficulties that are involved. Furthermore, we have a command of God, be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. Well, brother, the earth's not full yet.

And if we had proper government and proper economics and proper morality, we could handle a lot more people on this earth. And then another reason why people don't have children is because there's no hope for the future. They've been taught evolutionistic materialism, that life has no meaning, purpose, direction, or goal.

And so why don't we just eat, drink, and be merry? For tomorrow we die. And so this whole anti-Christian worldview is also anti-family and it's anti-child.

And any time a nation stops reproducing, that nation is in a death spiral. God declared on no uncertain terms that children are a blessing from the Lord. And so I always encourage couples, have all the children you can and then have one more.

And there's always room for them. So we need to be people who recognize God's plan and purpose. And that is that we would get married and that we would have children and that, as Kevin said, we would raise them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

All right, I received a comment here by way of text message, but let's see what that is. Let's see, I have a comment here from Brian, KJ7PWM. He says, "I was distracted for a second, but did it get mentioned the enemy actually has not just an agenda, but mainstream organizations like BLM and Planned Parenthood and others that specifically promote anti-family?" Brian, yes.

You know, Satan comes to kill and steal and destroy. Kevin mentioned later on in this passage, we're going to be talking about spiritual warfare, right? Revelation 12 makes it real clear that Satan was the one that was driving him to do that.

So this anti-family agenda is an anti-life agenda. And who is anti-life but Satan? He's the minister of death.

So anyway, Brian, KJ7PWM, good question, good observation, and you are exactly correct. Okay, any other comments on this passage? Please come out.

Alright, is anybody employed by anybody else? Do you have any comments about the employer-employee relationship? Come down with your call sign.

Well, I was an employer, and I was on the other end of the stick here. And, you know, it's interesting, this passage talks about servants and masters. And of course, back in the day, there were slaves.

Slavery has been the common condition of the world forever. It's just been in the last century that it's been largely eradicated from Western civilization. Of course, it's still practiced in Islamic societies because Islam has institutionalized the legitimacy of slavery, and they believe that that's an appropriate way to serve Allah.

So until the religion is overthrown, slavery is not going to be overthrown in the Islamic world. The reason why slavery was overthrown in the Western world is because Western civilization is based on Christianity, and Christianity has in it a theology that ultimately will eradicate slavery. But, even though we're not slaves, we do have this situation where an individual obtains property rights in the labor of another individual.

Now, it used to be you obtained property rights in the labor of another individual by buying him in the marketplace or defeating him in war. Now, an employer obtains property rights in the labor of an employee through purchase. He says to him, "Okay, I will pay you $20 an hour or whatever." in order to work for me.

And so the employee says, okay, I will sell you my labor for $20 an hour. So a person has property rights now in the labor of another. It's a voluntary exchange, but nevertheless, it's an obligation on both parties.

one to give labor and the other to give remuneration. Well, what should the attitude of an employee be towards his employer in terms of the way in which he does his work? Any comments from anyone about that?

Please come down to the conference. Alright, do we have any employers on this net? Anybody have anybody working for them as employees?

Um, any comments on your role as an employer? Please come down. 5 Yankee.

5 Yankee, please go ahead. Yeah, my comments on the role of the person should feel towards the employer and vice versa. And I feel that they should both be appreciative of one another.

The employee because the employer is giving them a job and giving them the opportunity to make an income. And the employer because they have somebody that's dedicated to working for them and working hard and earning that paycheck. But since we've had so many people bred into the world, and there's so many people out there that are looking for work, the attitude from the employers and employees is, oh, I can replace you anytime I want.

There's tons of people out there. Now, that was before COVID. And I was told myself when I worked for a year and I asked for a raise that I could be replaced that I wasn't getting a raise so I quit and found another job.

But the attitude today with employees towards working is, I don't know, the younger generation is like they expect to get a paycheck for being on their cell phone. Yeah, Beck, you really articulated well the problem when you have employers who don't have a Christian attitude and you have employees who don't have a Christian attitude. And the whole economic at-will employment relationship is fraught with potential for people treating each other with great evil.

I mean, I've seen employees stand back and not do their jobs, and when the boss isn't looking, they slack off. And I've also seen bosses who didn't reward diligence, hard work, productivity, and increased profits to the company because of selfishness. So that's why we have these passages like this in the Bible.

because employment is not merely an economic transaction. It also has a moral dimension to that relationship. And so the moral dimension is set out that when it comes to an employee, He's supposed to do what his employer wants him to do.

He's to do it with focus. He's to do it just as much as if Christ were his boss and serve with that degree of dedication and intensity and carefulness and productivity because he knows that as he works, not only does he get a check from his employer, he also gets a reward from God. for serving God faithfully.

And then, of course, the masters, verse 9, they are to do the same things to them. So the same moral obligations lay on an employer as what lays on an employee. And how are they supposed to deal with their subordinates?

Well, they're not to threaten them. They are to treat their employees the same way God treats them. You know, how does God deal with that?

Well, He's kind, He's patient. You know, He asks us to do some things, and we need to do them, right? But at the same time, I need to treat my employees.

I need to give them clear direction. I expect them to do things. and to do them with diligence, just like Jesus expects me to do things and do them with diligence.

But at the same time, Jesus is kind and patient and has goodwill towards me, and I love Him and I want to serve Him. Well, that same thing should be echoed in an employer-employee relationship. The problem is, when you have a Christian working for a non-Christian, and of course he is going to reflect a satanic attitude, And here you are, a Christian, working for the guy.

And so, you know, that kind of goes over into the book of Titus, where it also talks about employer-employee relationships. And it says in verse 9 of chapter 2, exhort servants to be obedient to their own masters and to please them well in all things, not answering again, that is, not arguing, not stealing, but showing all good fidelity. Now, here it is.

Titus 2 and verse 10, that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things. So as an employee, when I was working for an ungodly employer, my chief concern was, what kind of a testimony am I giving to my employer by the way in which I work? And it should be, it should be the case that Christian employees are the very best employees they can find.

We outwork, we outproduce, we're faithful, we don't steal, we work hard, we're obedient to the goals and the plans of the company. And an unsaved employer is going to look at that and go, wow, these Christians really have their act together. They're great employees.

Maybe they've got something going on that I need to listen to. So, yeah, it's a complicated thing. But what it really boils down to is this.

And, look, I was a Christian employer. I had 16 full-time people working for me in my business in California. Most of those people were not saved people.

And so I had a testimony to maintain to them in the way I treated them. And I wanted to go away and say, you know what, when I worked for that Christian employer, that was one of the best jobs I ever had because I was treated well, I was treated fairly, and I was treated with consideration. And so it works both ways.

I need to be a good testimony as an employer. Employees need to have a good testimony as well by the way they conduct themselves. And when you have that situation, you know, what we're really doing in our work is being a witness to the world by our actions.

Jesus says, "Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven." One of the good works they can see is, "How am I behaving as an employee? How am I behaving as an employer?" But, Beck, you brought up a really excellent point there. Thank you for speaking up.

All right. Anyone else have comments? Please come down.

Is that extent? Is that extent? Kevin, go ahead.

Yeah, great comments, Beck, and as well, Max. And, you know, slavery's been pretty well established worldwide for centuries. And in many parts of the world, it still takes place.

And you're right to compare it in our day and age many times to as an employer-employee relationship, so different. It has really the same roles in many ways. And I've been on both sides of the fence most of the time as an employer or solopreneur, I guess.

But, you know, I've been on both sides of the fence. I had six employees. Most often times I just had a couple.

But I think too, the point is, is you're right, is God leading the way. This is where we must be careful with seeing the danger of love, of The love of money being the focus. And where that takes place, we see all kinds of problems.

Even in our early industrial age, you know, child labor was a real problem because it was the love of money. it was pretty cruel to children, to those that were just seeking any kind of work. And we see the damage of that.

We see the abuse that sometimes slavery could cause. But we also have examples throughout the Word of God of good masters, of good good employers, if you will, in this day and age, and the difference there. And so, yeah, as we spirit fill out and think of the letter to Philemon and that relationship there and how Philemon Paul sent that letter to try to reconcile that broken relationship there.

One of the things, though, Philemon would still be the role as, if so chosen by Philemon, and that's to be still slave for Philemon. by Lehman, but in one position, and positionally really as brothers in Christ. So because one of the things, the hardest part, and many of us have experienced it, and in the work situation, when someone gets a title sometimes or a position of authority, Sometimes they can become tyrants.

They're like rulers of their own little empire or the corner of the empire. And they can be quite cruel and just quite hard to live with, hard to work with. And again, so let us approach it in a godly fashion, both whichever role we are in, and do the best we can.

And I know I could have done better. I always tried to be fair and just. I always kept my word.

But I certainly could have done better. The entire time that I was an employer, I wasn't always following God. But I never, you know, I've always tried to be fair and honest to whoever worked for me because I was grateful to have those that were faithful in their service.

KB7 is that acceptable? Yeah, Kevin, thank you for that. I agree.

We each have to watch our attitudes and our behaviors. The Bible gives clear direction to employers. It gives clear direction to employees, not only in Ephesians, but in Colossians and in Titus.

And then, of course, there's real principles there in the book of Philemon, as you said. All right, we have not talked about verses 1 to 4 about children needing to obey their and parents needing to raise their children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. So does anyone have any comments on this whole business of being a parent and/or being a child?

Please come down after the call, sir. All right, well, I received a comment here from Brian, KJ7PWM, I wanna just read it to you. Brian says, "As an employer, I do witness to my employees by actions and deeds and outright witnessing.

I have found over the years that an employee who is very non-Christian can really cause problems internally and with customers. Currently two of my employees are not Christians, but they are also not anti-Christian. One is either saved or close to being saved, and that's Mariah.

We've been praying for her. And it's really working out as a good team. I pray for them daily.

But everyone is courteous, and we get stuff done. And when we have a painful customer, we come back sometimes after venting for a moment to realize the situation, and we need to treat them with compassion and understanding. My Christian leadership, as it has been over the past few years, has made a huge difference from when I wasn't acting as a Christian leader.

Brian, thank you for sharing your personal experience in that realm. And, yeah, you know, when employees are Christians, and employers are Christians and they treat customers like Christians should, it makes the whole process go so much better. So I appreciate you sharing that.

You know, I tried to hire Christians to work for me. Sometimes I was successful, sometimes I wasn't. But even the non-Christians realized, "Okay, my boss is a Christian, several of my fellow employees are Christians," and they tend to kind of fall into that pattern of behavior because that's who they're surrounded with and that's who they are around.

So anyway, and then Brian goes on to say, and further comment, he says, "And this relates 100% to marriage and kids as well. It all goes together." Yes, it does. You know, we need to encourage our children to behave as God would have them to, as we evangelize them while they're growing up.

And we as parents need to treat our children with understanding, compassion, and yet firmness and insistence that they do the right thing. And so the child-parent relationship, the employer-employee relationship has a lot of parallels in between them. The difference, of course, is that with our children, we're much more active in instructing them religiously, okay?

And so it says specifically in verse 4 that the person responsible for child raising is the father. Not that the mother isn't involved, but notice it says in verse 4, And you fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. So we need to disciple our children.

We need to teach them the Bible. We need to evangelize them. We need to set a good example before them.

And we need to discipline them when they're out of line. And that involves, you know, the Bible says, "The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings his mother to shame." And so the Bible is full of admonitions about the need to discipline children while they're young, while their character is being shaped, and then of course, while they're young, fill their minds with the Word of God. When I raised my kids, there was no television, there was no social media, there was no movies.

All we did is we taught them the Bible morning, noon, and night. And then of course, we did lots of activities as a family. I, of course, was pastoring a church.

And so they participated in that, obviously. And so you only have 18 years to get the Word of God into their hearts and minds. So you do your part.

You can't cause their salvation or force their salvation, but you can sure provide an environment in which salvation can easily take place by raising them in the discipline and in the instruction of the Lord. So if you have an impact on children that are growing up or grandchildren that are growing up, every time you're together with them, try to teach them the Word of God and try to guide them in the right direction because that's an important component of what we as fathers are supposed to be doing. All right, any other comments on this passage?

We're about out of time. Please come down with your call time. A couple things I should have thought of, I hadn't thought of in many years.

But first of all, I wanted to make, respond to Brian and his point of prayer and praying for his employees. And what an important and valuable thing that can so easily be overlooked. But the prayer, our prayer life is so, so important.

You know, back in the mid-80s, I was called and managed a large fish farm. outside of West Palm Beach there. It was on about sixty acres.

About a third of that was the fish farm. And I had several migrant workers come in at times. Most Haitians—there was a large Haitian community down the road, and most of them did agricultural work.

And when I went down there, everybody said, "Oh, they're just lazy people. They're just, quite extensively but i i i tell you that they were i always treated them well and they were the hardest workers i'd ever seen in my life uh the two i come to mind most were gabriel and christian uh gabriel uh he was working hard after work he'd work a good long day and uh and then he would uh You know what, he would work on trying to learn English better and literary skills, including writing and grammar. And I would sit down with him.

Christian was a guy at that time in his 50s. He was built like Hulk Hogan. I mean, this guy was something else, but a kind and gentle man.

I remember one day he said, and it always bothered me, they always called me Boss Man. And I got used to it, but Boss Man can, you know, this and that. And there was no more work to be done.

He said, "Well, Boss Man, let me go do your dishes, you know?" I said, "Well, if you want, Christian." You know, there weren't that many. But he was gone a long time. You know, we had a house on the property.

And I thought, "Well, maybe I'll go check on it, make sure everything's okay." I went down there, and he had taken one of these Teflon pans and cleaned all of the Teflon off of that pan. And I can't imagine how hard he worked, and he was so proud. He said, "Boss man, I got all the black off the pan." I did have a hard-to-tell him.

He ruined a really nice pad. But these guys I was able to witness, too, and they were just wonderful partners, really. You know, technically they were employees, but I was so blessed to be able to work with them.

KB7 is not acceptable. comment? Yeah, what a great story.

Zeal to try to do the right thing. Yeah, let's pray for our children. Let's pray for our grandchildren.

Let's pray for our employees if we have any. And let's continue to recognize that Our job is, of course, to earn money. We've got to provide our own food, clothing, and shelter.

The Bible makes it very clear that we are to earn our own bread. But on top of that, our job is a mission field, whether we're an employer or an employee, to shine for Jesus, to be a clear and compelling witness by the way we treat other people, And by the way we do our work. And so we're missionaries, right?

So if you're a parent, you're a missionary to a child. If you're an employer, you're a missionary to your employees. If you're an employee, you're a missionary to your employer and to the customers.

So anyway, our number one concern is shining that light And then of course doing our responsibility in such a way as to cast credit on the Lord Jesus Christ, whom we represent. All right, we are done with our Bible study. It's time to go to prayer.

Are there any final prayer requests anybody wants to bring to our attention? Before we go to prayer, please come down with your call sign. - AE-70R.

- Jerry, AE-70R, go ahead. - Who's traveling with us? - Just the Lebanon guy, basically.

- Copy that. Jerry, AE-70R is traveling to Lebanon and back today. That's quite the journey from Roseburg, so we need to pray for safety on the road.

Copy, Al. This is off the end turn also, but there was a comment in there too. Yeah, copy that.

Okay, so Jerry's traveling to Lebanon today and back. Let's pray for Journey's mercies. That's Jerry, AE70R.

I think there was a comment in there too, Max. Okay, thank you. Comment, please come ahead.

AD relays. I thought it sounded like Beck. Uh, Beck, Alpha Alpha 580, that's you, come ahead.

Alright, I'm hearing nothing, um, the net would like to acknowledge Phillip, T6HSV, Phillip, I've seen you there for a long time on the Utah SDR, thanks for being with us today. I failed to call you out earlier. That's Phillip, K6HSV checked in with us today.

Alright, any other prayer requests before we go to prayer, please come down. Alright, AL, KJ7QQH, please close in prayer for us. Thank you Pastor Max.

We thank everyone on the net. This is a day that is too late. Let's gather together and pour the Lord's Prayer.

Heavenly Father, thank you for today and this lesson where we can learn how to be towards each other. in whatever status we're in, we ask your blessing on this year that you might allow it to be a night to us as we go about our lives and our daily lives today. And we ask your blessing on all the things that we do today and think today.

We have been making some embarrassing requests and I'll try to read them to you. We have your blocking video in VR and we ask that these viewers be able to see that there is more to life than just free video games. parents and guardians who bring them to this activity and introduce them to this.

We have the evening with Jerry, a EWR, he travels to and from Lebanon today, if it's safe travel. For Roger, WBXVCL, he's in Portland today, we ask for safe travel for him as well. and getting wisdom in fixing the antenna issues there.

I'll be looking at Lee, AL7KG. We ask your blessing on him if he's in church today and for the success of his book selling business. Our Brian, KA7VIP, who's at a men's retreat This weekend, we have Perseid Travel 2 and stuff that for him.

For Mark, AJ7, GBP, Perseid Travels from home from Montana. So he's busy. Dan, N6, TNI, for the healing of his neck pain.

that he's been suffering with this past week. And also for Sandy, WSMFAD, to continue healing her hip after her surgery. And for Jerry, JG6J, and his health issues and life issues.

For Doc W6RLJ, We pray for his serious health problems and for the establishment of the dental clinic on DT. We ask that the government vote be favorable towards the establishment of that dental clinic. And Lord, we ask that the Burn Ridge Christian Church are still actively searching for a new path.

We want to continue to work with someone who's still that position and we give you praise that you have been able to, and through your provision, if you will, allow us to introduce pastors and pastors of the Lord. For Brian, KJ, that's PWM. We lift up Chris for his salvation and for him to be open to Brian's ministry.

And we pray for Brian's wife, Anne, that she begins a new and matured movement on her farm. And for both wisdom and success there, and for the bunch of new lambs, I'm sure there's going to be some system of food there for Jeff, a.k.a. Big Bill K.

the church is ongoing by the distribution to soldiers and also the installation of chapel but maybe we pray for wisdom and spiritual protection of all of our pastors and all of for uh mark that we said that uar uh we looked at tyler who started drug addiction We pray for these unsaved and unchurched communities who hear and believe the gospel. And so Lord, you know over our hearts and minds, so that there's many other prayer requests out there. You know our big list, we just want to look at it to you today and ask that you would be with all those suffering people out there.

and you know where Jesus is needed but we know that this is part of your plan and we ask that your will be done so Lord thank you for your goodness and mercy and grace to each one of us and we thank you for it It's a gift of your son, Jesus Christ. And we pray all these things. Amen.

This is KJ7, 228. Returning back to Utah, all good, head control. All right, thank you for that, WB7MAX.

You're out. Appreciate that, Parris. Never like to ignore Dave, KE7WKI.

Dave, see you there on Utah. Thank you for being there with us. Appreciate your presence.

and for God to meet the needs of those that are in our circle of fellowship. I'll be returning this frequency now to regular amateur use. This is WB7MX, we'll be clear and standing by.

KG6J. KG6J, go ahead there Jerry. Well, I had a comment that had it gone quiet, I would have attempted a comment during the net, but it also formed into a question.

I'm terrible about memorizing scripture references to other parts of the Bible. looking at 6:7 and 8, verses 6, 7 and 8, there is another place in the Word where it speaks to this, where when we do things and we make sure other men know of our good works, then we have our reward. But when we do things in secret, and we do them for the right reasons, because it's what the Lord teaches us, Jesus was here to do all things with integrity and telling the truth.

But when we do those things in secret, we're putting up treasure in heaven. We don't do it for that reason. We're doing it for the right reasons.

It's the right thing to do. But we are putting treasure in heaven. Do you know what scripture reference I'm thinking of?

Yes, I do. It's in Matthew chapter 6. And it starts out at verse 1, Matthew 6:1, "Take heed that you do not your alms before men to be seen of them; otherwise you have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Therefore, when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogue and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand knoweth thy right hand doeth.

If thou doest alms, let it be in secret, and thy father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. So that's one section there. And then the next section talks about not only giving but prayer.

Verse 5: And when you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites also. They love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets. that they may be seen of men.

Now I am saying to you, they have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet. When thou shut the door, pray to thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

So that's the passage that you're talking about. Go ahead there, Jerry, with your comment. Well, that's most of it right there.

I remembered hearing that thought on and thinking of everything here. It just made me think of that. And as you dive your shoes, you continue on about praying to four men.

I think they had these prayer boxes on their foreheads, I think, and whoever had to do this was, and it looked like they were degraded coal again. And it's definitely not a problem. For state-by-state.

But we do things because it's the right thing to do. Because that's what the Lord wants me to do. I work in HR and integrity is critical.

And I do what's paperwork and we want to pay our people correctly. But I do it because that's what it is. I probably didn't want to be a tabasite painter.

No, you didn't. You know, the thing about being in secret, okay, It's talking about ostentatious display in front of other people in order to get the praise of men. And so the idea of giving was giving so that everyone would see what you were giving and praise you.

The idea of praying in public or the corners of the streets was so that everyone would see you and thank you. and declare that you were some kind of a holy man. Now, obviously, we pray in public, don't we?

We pray at the start of this net. We pray at the end of this net. Jesus prayed in public.

The apostles all prayed in public. So the issue is not, does somebody know what we are doing? You really can't hide what you're doing from everyone.

Somebody's going to know. But the issue is, what is your motive in doing it? Now, your motive in sharing just now that what you're doing in HR and payroll, you try to do that with integrity, that wasn't so that I could sit here and pat you on the back and say, oh, Jerry, aren't you such a wonderful person?

You're sharing that because you're trying to articulate your efforts to be biblical in the way in which you do your work. There's nothing wrong with that. We several people shared on the net today about what they have done or should have done in relationship to the situation that there is.

There's nothing wrong with that because the goal in doing that isn't to eat praise to ourselves. It's to discuss the struggles, it's to give glory to God, it's to try to better conform to His Word. And Jerry, there's a passage just before this one.

Okay, I just read you the passage in Matthew chapter 6. But notice, if you will, Matthew chapter 5, and verse 14 to 16. Verse 14 says, Now here's the motive.

so that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven. So there's a time and a place that we want people to see our good works. But why do we want them to see them?

So that they can praise us? No, so that they can give glory to God for Him... inspiring and directing the work that is a blessing to them.

So there's a place to be private about what we do if we are susceptible to trying to do things to the praise of men. There's a time and a place to allow other people to know what we're doing so that they can look at that and say, isn't God wonderful in the way in which he has directed these things to be done and these people are following him? and look at the blessing that that produces.

Praise be to God. So it has to do more not with who sees and who hears, but what is the motive for having people see and having people hear. Back to you, Jerry.

Copy, Paul, and amen. Thank you for sharing that, Pat. And, yeah, we do it because it's the right thing to do, and it does serve as an example before others.

They know we're Christians, and they come to know we're going to treat them fairly, which I have been a kid ever since I've been there for over 35 years. And I started off as a lawyer with most of the old people. Yep, I'm in the office.

And they say, "Trundle." And it's strange to us. Not unconditionally, but... There's a level of trust that I just don't get.

And my boss marvels at that. She's a good little Baptist girl in her mid-50s, and she's fighting cancer too. But we sometimes just, yeah.

We benefit from doing the right thing with the right conversation, and that's what we do. Anyway, that's what I wanted to share, and thank you so much for spending a few moments with me. Yeah, you bet, Jerry.

Good talking to you. Really appreciate the question and the interaction. And, yeah, all right.

That is Jerry, KG6J. Jerry, thanks for that. Anybody else want to talk, please come down to the call line.

Have a great day, Matt. Alright, you bet, Jerry. God bless.

Jerry, KG6J73 to you, WB7MX, clear. Beck, Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, got a joke for today? Alright, looks like Beck Whitten took his influence.

Okay, anybody else want to chat? Please come down here closely. Alright, WB7MX, we're going to be clearing QRT, we'll see you all tomorrow, God bless, and may you just have a great day today for those of you who are going to church, and may God bless you, each one.

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