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Turn down the Thurston Hills repeater there. Is it today that you and Andrew are going to spend time roasting hot dogs? Is that this weekend, over? That's today, today, and he's heading home tomorrow, so we'll have him overnight. Have a good study, Scott. Give him a signal here. This is WB7AOT in Ham Lake, Minnesota. I'll listen on my phone over breakfast. All right, well that sounds good. Out here, I get a banana. So, you know, a triple stack with the whole enchilada, that would be good for you there, Darrell. 7 MPH. Roger, roger. 73. All right, looking for check-ins. Looking for check-ins to the West Coast Bible Study Group. Please call 7 MPH. And good morning. 8E7, you are? No, for every call. Alright Jerry, I appreciate you stopping by and grabbing a chair and coming up to the table. Alright, looking for check-ins to the West Coast Bible Study Group, please call in 7-N-P-S. Kilo 7, remember Echo Bravo. Okay, I hear a faint one out there. I believe it's Romeo Bravo. Let's all listen in and see what we can hear. Come again. Oh, Keith from Sandpoint. Okay, I got you that time, Keith. Yesterday, you had a big strong signal. Today, a little bit light. So that's all band conditions, so no worries on your end. And I'm sure that it's going to change. So any prayer requests this morning, Keith, over? All right. Didn't hear anything there, Keith, but thanks for grabbing the chair and coming up to the table. All right. That was Keith from Sandpoint, K7NEB. All right. Looking for check-ins to the West Coast Bible Study Group. Please call in 7NPA. He said no prayer requests. Okay, thanks, Beck. I really appreciate you, Beck, in assisting. Pastor Max, he can grab on to the... to the stick, and he can run both rudders with his feet, and he is wonderful at flying this plane. Well, I'm just lucky to hold on to the stick, so all hands on deck this morning to assist will be greatly appreciated. All right, looking for check-ins to the West Coast Bible Study Group, please call in 7 a.m. p.m. WB7VZL, good morning. Good morning there, brother Roger. I'll jump in there and give you an audio hug. How are you and Dailene doing, over? We're doing, by God's grace, really well. She was pretty tired yesterday, but she's been working hard with the tax season, et cetera. So anyway, we have really a lot to be thankful for. Thank you, Scott, for asking. You bet, Roger. And I'm sure that's real taxing. And I kind of relate. I had a couple big logs I had to cut yesterday, big trees that come over the bank and across the road and hit the creek and busted all up. And I got home last night. I was tired. So I'm not going to do anything today, really. So that's what I got going on. Let's see. Looking for check-ins to the West Coast Bible Study Group as we wind down and get ready to go here. - Whiskey 7, Uniform Alpha Romeo. - Alpha Romeo. Hey, good morning. That's Mark, W7UAR. Is that you, Mark? Roger, roger. Well, thanks for stopping by, grabbing a chair. I haven't heard your voice for a while. Currently, Pastor Max flew out to Newark and New Jersey yesterday. He's teaching at a seminary. for the next five days. So you along with others, we kind of got all band together and I'm no Pastor Max, but we're gonna continue and do the best we can. So I appreciate you grabbing a chair of ours. And I'd love to hear what you have to add there, Mark. Well, thank you very much. And yeah, that'll be great. I'm looking forward to listening to it. I have been listening as I've been remote here over the last little bit, but always enjoy listening in. And yeah, looking forward to today. So good luck as you fill in there. Alrighty, remote, so are you, see you're usually transmitting out of Utah, but I heard one time you was headed to Arizona or something, so are you currently in Utah? Roger, roger, yeah I just mean as I'm moving around in life, you know, often times I have you guys dialed in on an SDR or something like that. Oh yes, yes, okay, I'm with you. I'm with you, Mark. Well, thank you. Thank you for grabbing a chair and joining us this morning. All right, looking for check-ins. Well, let me go through the SDRs. We got Phillip there, K6HSV, and JR, K6LBP. And let's see, that's the Half Boone Bay. Looking down here, there's Don, my old buddy Don. Good morning, Don. AC7KW. Don has grabbed a chair and has joined us around the table with work. And I think everybody else is... Well then the goofy thing disappeared on me. So where's my mouse? And I'll see if anything's hiding down below. Oh yes, we have some... There's Brian, KJ7PWM. Good morning Brian. Supposed to meet up with him for lunch today, so kind of looking forward to that. Let's see, K7GWR, there's Gene. Thanks, Gene, for grabbing a chair and coming around the table. And I think that's pretty much the identifiers there. So, what's wrong with that? And I'll check back with that. Any last check-ins before we get going here? Please call in, 7MPA. All righty. Well, Roger, I'll have you open up in prayer, if you would. And Bex had a question for you there yesterday at the end of the net. And... And he was unable -- oh, it was the joke that he said -- he said, "This one's for Roger, and then we missed out on you, Roger." So I don't know if you can stick around later today, but Beck has one queued up for you. So I'll have you open up in prayer, Roger, and I'll have Jerry read this morning. So -- and then I'll be closing in prayer. So go ahead, Roger, and let's open this up in prayer this morning. Let us pray. Father, thank you so much for your word, your holy word. And today we see the tension in Paul's life. As Max has mentioned, Lord, that there is a time to speak, and yet Paul does everything possible to not be equated with boasting. but there is a time to highlight his credentials in defense of him and how you used Paul and called him. So thank you so much, Lord, for your Holy Spirit as we enter into your word this morning. In Jesus' name. Amen. Appreciate that, Roger, opening up in prayer. All right, Jerry, I'll tap you to do the reading this morning. And Jerry will be reading in 2 Corinthians 11, verse 16. And go ahead, Jerry, and just read to the end of the chapter. Over. Here we go. Again, 2 Corinthians chapter 11, beginning at verse 16. Again I say, let no one think me foolish. But if you do, receive me even as foolish, so that I also may boast a little. But I'm saying, I am not saying, as the Lord would, but as in foolishness, in this confidence of boasting. Since many boast according to the flesh, I boast also, for being so wise. Tolerate the foolish, get gladly. For you tolerate it if anyone inflates you, anyone devours you, anyone takes advantage of you, anyone who exalts himself, anyone hits you in the face. To my shame, I must say that we have been weak by comparison. But in whatever respect anyone else is bold, I speak in foolishness. I am just as bold myself. Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israeli? Israelite? So am I. Are they descendants of Abram? So am I. Are they servants of Christ? So am I. I speak as if insane. I am more so, and far more labored, and far more impressed, and presently. These are signs without number, often in the danger of death. Five times I received from Jews 39 lashes. Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stolen three times. I was shipwrecked. A night and a day I have spent in the deep. I have been on frequent journeys and dangers from rivers, dangers from robbers, dangers from my countrymen, dangers from Gentiles, dangers in the city, dangers in the wilderness, dangers on the scene, dangers among false brethren. I have been in labor and hardship through my sleepless nights in hunger and thirst, nothing without food, being cold, and exposure. Of course, from such external things there is daily pressure upon me of concern for all churches. Who is weak without my being weak? I'm hearing something else. Who is weak without my being weak? who is led into sin without my intense concern. I will boast of what pertains to my weakness, the God and Father of the Lord Jesus. He who is blessed forever knows that I am not lying. In Damascus, the Ethadar, under Eratos the king, was guarding the city of Damascus. Yeah, in order to seize me. And I was let down in a basket through a window in the wall and so escaped this hand. All right, that brings us up to Chapter 12, and this is 8B-7ER. Oh, wow. So did anybody else have a bad day yesterday? And then compare it to Paul. All right, well, let's -- there's -- A few different thoughts here. We covered a little bit of ground. So that's what we did this morning. So let's start there in number 16 and work our way forward. Any thoughts to get this discussion ball up and rolling? Please call in 7:00 MPH. BDI. Yeah, go ahead, David. Yeah, when I look at Paul here, when he begins here dealing with the boasting portion here, when you look at boasting in the flesh, you know, we're told that if anyone should boast, they should boast in the Lord. When you boast in the flesh, usually what goes with that is pride. and a haughty spirit. Proverbs 16 and verse 18 says, Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fault. And so Paul is boasting in the Lord, and that's how we should vote. And then when he uses that as a prelude, if you will, to get into what he's going to talk about next, which is the suffering... for Christ. And you're right in your comments, Scott, when I look at how Paul suffered in the flesh for the cause of Christ, it is just amazing. And no wonder when it was said, I will show him how many things he must suffer for my name's sake, Paul truly bore the marks of Jesus Christ in the flesh. And so when you look at the 40 strikes, five times, minus one. And the reason they say minus one is the average person, when they receive those strikes, 39, they stop there because 40 would kill the person. Can you imagine going through that five different times? That's just amazing because it cuts open your flesh, and it's just terrible. But Paul went through all of that. And then the stoning, you know. that he went through. Usually when you stone someone, you can see that there's no way they're going to recover, but Paul did. And I believe there was some intervention there as well, but all that he went through, when I look at Paul's life, and I look at my life as I walk in Christ, I cannot compare in any way, shape, or form. And so... He went through a lot and it just shows me that I can continue this race and I can't quit I got to continue it all the way to the end All this and I know that I can to people people seven pop it. Don't be a vacuum Appreciate What you have to say there David and of course my brain's going all over all over the map here I I look at my life, and maybe have each and every one of you around the table just stop for a moment and look at your own lives. And look at when it comes to the spiritual ministry, how rocky has that been for you, or how spiritually smooth that has been for you? And I know in my life, I have spent sleepless nights tossing and turning, concerned for the church family when they were my responsibilities. and so on and so forth. And that is just small potatoes compared to what the Apostle Paul is describing here. And I know some of you around the table this morning have stepped into a larger role than I as far as pastoring churches. And I'm sure, as I'm sitting here, that you have like-minded stories. But we all look at this. None of us We may have taken mental lashes, but none of us have taken physical lashes. And so he's really setting the bar here. I know I don't even come close. Coming close, and it makes me think, well, I need to double down and do more. Any thoughts that we can build on David's opening thoughts? Please call him. 7-8-P-A. Yeah, go ahead, Mark. Yeah, I'm looking at verse 18. Sorry, I'm coming up to SDR here. Yeah, I can hear you. I'm hearing you direct. You want us to all look at verse 18? Go ahead. I don't like them SDRs. Yeah, go ahead Mark, verse 18, expand. My radio is a little out of whack, it should come back. Sorry guys. Okay, no worries. Alright. Anybody else want to share with us life experiences or have something to add to David's comment, please call in 788. ZXN. Yeah, go ahead, Kevin. Hey, good morning. KB7, ZXN, yeah. I didn't get to hear all of David's comments, so I hope I'm not being redundant. I'm sure they were good. It's quite interesting here. The fossil fossils that Paul is pointing to and had to deal with, he matches them point for point on far as his lineage. You know, they're from Israel, so am I. They're Jews, so am I. But then he goes into territory where none can match, and that is... One, his devotion and surrender to the ministry that God has sent him on, but his love and passion for the churches that have been planted and the brethren and the suffering that ensued because of that. You know, they may hold up some worldly things, type of credentials and criticize Paul for, although if he wanted to go there, Paul's academic credentials, I'm sure, far surpass those. But he points to those credentials as just a pile of dung, because what counts to him is his relationship with Christ and his faithfulness to that service that he was called upon to do. Now, apostle is one that is sent out with authority, is literally what the word means here. And we see that by going through this list of suffering that he did. You know, traveling around the Mediterranean in this time was a very, very dangerous thing. And there were many hazards along the way, and especially when you were rocking the boat. as articulated about Peter in the first part of Acts, when it says, these guys were turning the world upside down. Well, Paul continued to do that. When he got saved and he went on his missionary journeys and follow-ups with the churches. They were still turning the world upside down, and he was, but it did not go without confrontation. So whether it be the elements themselves of exposure and bitter cold and hunger, whether was the beatings, the rods, the imprisonments, you know, whatever the case, the sufferings, he calculated as just a part of the service, his devotion, because of his devotion to the saints and to God was preeminent. Even through this, he was constantly in prayer and in joy despite his personal circumstances physically. His joy was in seeing the souls saved, seeing the people walk with God, seeing those that maybe drifted away in their walk to repent, as we see in the Corinthian church on a couple of different occasions. So his credentials are really unmatched. And that's what he's pointing out because what this shows is God's grace. working in Paul in a way that false apostles or false teachers, those that come along with false doctrines, can't match. So the way that God has worked in Paul and through Paul and sustained Paul in this suffering is a testimony of itself. KB7 is that example. I appreciate those comments there, Kevin. And Kevin's alluded to Paul, you know, the Apostle Paul, which means sent out with authority. That's what Kevin touched on that. And then going toe-to-toe with these worldly leaders and then engaging in – They're saying, well, we do this, we do this. Well, then it's kind of like Sugar Ray Leonard did a prize fight here. They're kind of trading jabs. But Paul, while he's trading jabs, is sharing that his strength for these jabs is coming from the heavens, and that's what he really cares about. And so his credentials are unmatched, where he's consistently... in prayer, and I think we can glean something from that right there. All of us need to be consistently in prayer, because what that consistently in prayer does is that ties us back to our allegiance with the Messiah. And without prayer, we will have tendencies to parade around the boxing ring with our arms up high saying, look at me, look at me, look at me. But when we're in prayer and we're engaged in some of this, assuming we're in a fall when we're doing outreach ministry, this prayer allows us to stay connected into what truly matters. Christian loggers breakfast. And we invite all the loggers that come in from all around the world to come in and have breakfast with us, and we'll usually have a testimony and whatnot. But there's others of the world, they invite all the loggers to come down to the tavern and have breakfast. And so we have this... little bit of tug-of-war going. As we're giving, to the Fellowship of Christian Loggers, we're giving an opportunity to come to ours. Well, there's an individual that I ran into out on the tree farm. This was probably a month and a half ago, and he was broke down. And I know very well that he's one of those that goes to the tavern for breakfast. You know, I have my intel. I do my studies. I understand what I'm up against, and he was one. So I stop and I help him. and I help him get his truck going. And I give him my card and share a little bit about the Fellowship of Christian Loggers. And this card has my name and number and a little spiritual stuff to it. I tell him if he ever has any questions, please give me a call. This is the first time I've actually engaged with this guy. Well, you fast forward a month later, he's going down the main line. going back to get another load and he runs his truck in the ditch. I don't know what he was doing. He wasn't paying attention or whatnot. The shoulder's real soft and he gets his truck stuck. Well, then he has to walk back to where we're working and ask for help. And so we'll go down, we walk the excavator a mile down the road and we pull his truck out. And I'm really careful about that because I've done, I know how easy this is done. So I don't, you know, I just dare to help him and tell him that it looks good, thanks for coming and allowing us to come help you, that sort of conversation. Well, then I run into him yesterday, and as I'm going down the main line, he says, where are you going, Scott? And I said, well, I'm headed up Ames Creek to cut some big loaves. And he says, okay, well, just in case I go in the ditch again, I'll know where to walk to. And I laugh, I says, "Yeah." I says, "The excavator I named the Peter Bell Retriever." And he laughed about that. Well, this is part of the engaging a little bit, softly, that Paul is experiencing. Maybe in a different way, maybe in a lighter way, but nonetheless, This is maybe a word painting of how this works in the modern world. So continuing with David and building on David and Kevin's comments, maybe a little bit of this word picture story, please call in 7 MPA. We would like to have a follow-up. Yeah, I got Will in there and I got David. David with the follow up and then I'll catch up with you, Will. David with the follow up and then we'll go to Will. KK7PDI in 7MP. Alright, yeah, Scott. Verse 18, Mark was going to make a comment on, "seeing many boast according to the flesh," he says, "I also will boast." It's because the church in Corinth had accepted false apostles into their midst. And they accepted them, and they were talking about all the things that they did, and all that they were in the church there. Paul wants to correct the church and get them back on the right track. And that's the only reason he's doing this boasting. He's doing it to show them that they are an error, that their false apostles are not what they claim to be. All this is to correct him. So that's where he starts in verse 22 when he says, are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they of the seed of Abraham? So am I. And are they ministers of Christ? I speak as a fool. I am more. And so when he looks at that in the labors, abundant in stripes, they cannot make the same claims that Paul does. And this is something that Christ never did during his walk. He never defended himself this way. Paul is doing it to show them, Yeah, and I think the key thing here, David, is, yeah, Paul read the room and he boasted, but his boasting was, the ultimate boasting was for the Lord to drive this wedge into this crack, to open that up and expose who they are for who they are. A good comment there, David. Thank you. Can't find us. Here, bet you will. Would welcome any comments. All right. So that's where we're at. Anybody else have something to add or later on into the chapter we can move there now also? And we'll have an NPA. Yeah, okay, I got Steve and I got Mark. I'm going to grab Mark first in case there was something, Mark, that you want to talk about in verse 18, and then I'll grab Steve. Go ahead, Mark. Yeah, thanks for putting up with me here. Going down to 19, for you to probably see yourself alive, and I'm going to try that here in the next number of verses, 31-20. I think we did a peak. behind the curtain as to what these false teachers are like. And we'll do this against the backdrop of Paul and all that he has invested in the Corinthians that we've seen below, all of these things that Paul has gone through that he talks about being shipwrecked on and on and on, is him getting to the, at some point in time, getting to the Corinthians, and he's invested his life to give them the gospel. And then it says here at 20, it says, This is probably what he's hearing coming back from the Corinthians about what these people are like. And it says, for you put up with it, if one brings you into bondage. You know, Paul talks a lot about our freedom in Christ that we have as marks or badges of people that will put. an entire church under bondage, it will put a Christian under bondage and take him, lead him away from the freedom that he has in Christ. If one devours you, if you bump into some of these false teachers, you'll find out that a lot of it is about money and pulling your funds away from you. They devour you. If one takes from you, then he makes that very plain and then if one exalts himself, they'll generally maybe stand at your door stop and at your doorway and tell you that you really don't understand what you're talking about. We have the answers but we're going to help you out here. they'll exalt themselves and then it gets even to the position of being, he strikes you on the face. There are all kinds of worldly religions, many of them have some pretty, if you can follow what's going on with Islam, there's some pretty horrible things that happen to people in those. This is a bit of a place behind the scenes of why we are here. Of course, we remain in crisis. You'll find that the people that are in these kinds of relationships are really being mistreated, and they're allowing themselves to be mistreated. because they're trying to find their way to God by the wrong means. All righty, Mark. Thanks for sharing that. Mark was honing in there on verse 19 and 20. And he... just sharing his thoughts of what the Apostle Paul was going through and standing up against these false teachers because he had invested so much time and energy and assisting the Corinthian church. And what this kind of looks like a little bit to me, and maybe this analogy gets kind of wacko, I don't know, but I've been watching a lot of basketball games lately. You'll see two teams out on the floor, and one team plays real straight-up basketball, nice, good, good. I think this book very, very wisely leads them to, well, what we need to do is we gotta get our eyes back on Jesus. Just don't look at other men and their resumes and what's going on in their life and how we ought to be looking at them, whoa, whoa, boy, look at those dudes. Now we gotta, who doesn't look up Jesus? He looked there at Aaron 12 and those first three verses, "Consider him who that Jesus is." Fix your eyes on him, why he endured, why he endured it was for the joy of the cross, despise the shame, all of that. And then he said, "Consider him." Let's consider him who's endured such hostility by sinners against him. How much do we have to, uh, do we have a lot of that happen in our lives? Have I had a lot of that happen in my life? No. I haven't. Because there is a way you need to do that so that you won't grow weary. You lose heart. You've not resisted to the point of shedding blood. How many of us have resisted what's going on to the point of shedding blood? I guess the point I'm trying to make is Jesus had the best resume that's available. Absolutely amazing. Nobody can live up to that. He gave up his life. He bled and died for yours and my sins. And it says here in verse 5 and 12, it says, And you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons. Here's the thing that always hits me between the eyes. This is a quote from Proverbs 3. My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor faint when you are reproved by him. For those whom the Lord loves, he disciplines and he scourges. You know what scourges? He scourges every son whom he receives. That's what we have to look forward to. That's what we deal with every day. You know, Max tries to bring it out to us and remind us we're in a spiritual warfare constantly. That's what's going on. So heck with resumes. They don't care about my resume. I'm ashamed of my resume. I wouldn't want a lot of people to know about me. A lot of us are real proud of it. That'd be 6YSI. Very, very good comment there, Steve. And it kind of, Steve kind of put a lasso around this whole reading that Jerry... read to us this morning. And it kind of looks, as I can wind things down, what it kind of looks like to me is all of us, to some degree, our spiritual walk follows in the footsteps of Apostle Paul, just in smaller scales. and we go out into the world, our mindset should be our soul's fate. I think Kevin brought that up this morning. And be careful about boasting. You know, boast only into the Lord. And then Steve enclosed talking about resumes. And, you know, Jesus has the resume. We... We may be little people, but God loves each and every one of us around the table, and each and every one of us has something to contribute in some form or another. So I encourage us to seek his face on the ministry and the little piece of the puzzle. talk just as well pointed out. They can sound very traditional. But this is, again, as we talked about yesterday, the importance of knowing the Word of God, spending time in it, and having fellowship in a good church with good pastoral leadership. And the only reason that Paul's ministry survived all these trials was because of the grace of God. The only reason the truth continues today in faithful ministries and faithful churches... And I encourage you to come along beside the leaders and say, hey, can I take some rocks out of your pack? Can I lighten your load? This is a takeaway of what we're studying this morning. Over there to you, David, on a final thought. Tie a ribbon on it, and then I'll go into prayer. K-7 P-D-I and 7 P-S. is they're preparing hot dogs to roast over the fireplace. Just a lot of time with grandfather and grandson. Father, I just pray that Andrew will be receiving with a warm-felt heart what... and the salvation of Mariah. And that as Brian engages with her, that Brian can be a door that opens her spiritual light. And so we lift up Mariah to you. 87 KQI. Good morning, Kathy. Good morning. Everyone did a great job today. It was fantastic to study. Thanks, you all. Well, it's a group effort. It was really great, yeah. And thanks for your pro, Scott. That was wonderful, too. Thank you. I wish you a blessed day. As I go to the bathroom to play the tuba, Well, tomorrow I got another one that'll be quite interesting. And I know this one you'll appreciate even more. Okay, I got a question for you. I'm all ears. Okay. What would you consider Damien to be? Some people name their child Damien. And that would probably be the last name that I would name my child.