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Hello. This is a radio station, the radio station, the station is ready. Hello. Grand Teton, we're going to go through your country and the opportunity to be in New England. Thank you for your time. Hello. I'll be back on the back of the, of the front door. Hello. Thank you for your time. I appreciate you being there and I'll see you on your next week. Where's Brian back with me? Brian, KA7ZIP got you down as a listener. See you there on Utah SDR. Thank you for being there. And we got you checked in. If you want to check in by voice, that would be great as well. But if not, then that's perfectly fine. Got you down as a listener. All right, the net would also like to acknowledge Peter, KJ7BA. Good morning, Peter. See you there on the Utah SDR. Alright, Peter responds with a good morning to everyone and good morning to you Peter, always appreciate your response. I also see Carol, KK7TPO, Carol come back to me. OK, understand, Carol, KK7TPO has a prayer request, Scott, N7NPA, can you give me a relay? Yeah, come again, Carol, about the custody, over. Yeah, my grandson has a consult with the custody attorney today. I'll be training him at the hospital. I'll copy. Carol's grandson has a... Appointment with the custody attorney today and she's hoping that the appointment will go well. Alright, real good. So Carol's son has a custody appointment with the attorney today, hoping it will go well. Copy that Carol, we got that and we'll be praying about that. Did I get that right, Carol? I think you said grandson. Yes, my grandson. Yeah, if I didn't say grandson, that's what I meant. Did I get that right, that he has an appointment with the custody attorney? Roger, roger. Okay, got it. Roger, roger, Matt. Okay. All right, copy that, thank you. WB7VZL here. And good morning, Roger, WB7VZL, how are you and Darlene doing? Well, Darlene went to per meeting for the first time for a while, and that was a high point for sure. And she's been working on taxes and has pretty much things laid out for the tax man. Over. Yeah, that is such a pain in the neck. I hate that every year. I've got to do mine, but still waiting on information to come in. Yep, yep. All right. Well, pray for special grace for Daylene that she'll be able to sort through all that nonsense and get everything squared away. Yeah, that's like getting your fingernails pulled out, you know. But anyway, Roger, thanks for being there and appreciate that. Yeah, well, I'm looking forward to the next segment of Chapter 7. Yeah, we are in 2 Corinthians 7, 8-16. I'm going to ask you to read. Your signal is so good today. So if you could be prepared, 2 Corinthians 7, 8-16 there, Roger. Roger, Roger. I'll read it here. Okay, real good. All right, we'll get back to you in a minute after we open in prayer and finish our check-ins. All right, any more check-ins of the West Coast Bible Study, please come down. Kilo Mike 5 Foxtrot. Okay, I got a double there and I got them both. First, Will, Kilo Mike 5 Foxtrot, go ahead. Yeah, we checked with our chaplain coordinators there in West Monroe, Louisiana, and they had no further update. The only other information that we had ever been given was that she was 16 and the father had been upset that she might, that they may not have, that they may have been too hard on her and she may have disappeared because of that, but that's the only other information we have. So they're being real tight about it down there and not letting any information out came by this. All right, real good. Thank you for that, Will. We'll continue to play for Rita and for her safe return back home, understand the situation there. All right, I'll turn to Brian, KJ7PWM. Good morning, Brian. Good morning. Happy to be here. No new prayer requests. And I'm really here with my company on Utah, so I can't mess with you this morning. KJ7 PWM. Alright, Brian. KJ7 PWM. Understand happy to be here. No new prayer requests and you're listing on Utah. Okay, real good. We've got Brian checked in. Any other check-ins please come down. Thank you. Alright, I think we're all caught up on the SDRs and I don't hear any more voice check-ins, so we're going to get started with a West Coast Bible study. This is WB7MX, Net Control. We are in 2 Corinthians 7, verses 8 through 16. And here is Paul's response to the report from Titus. Now, as you recall, Paul wrote 1 Corinthians. And that letter contained a lot of rebuke of sin in the congregation at Corinth. Because there was a lot of sin there. Paul was being faithful to their souls. And he was pointing them in the direction of repentance towards sin and obedience to and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. And after he sent the letter, he was a little bit anxious about whether he should have been so straightforward and whether he should have dealt with so much all at once. But then Titus came and brought back a good report. of their response. And so that good report of the Corinthians' response to Paul's first letter is the subject of our passage today. So anyway, that's what we'll be reading in a minute. But before we start with our scripture reading, we want to open in prayer today. And so Bert, W7RKD, if you could open in prayer for us today, I would really appreciate that. Go ahead there, Bert. Oh, thank you, Max. This is W7RKD. Let's bow our heads. Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day. We thank you for this gathering of followers of Christ, followers of you on the handbands. And we thank you for this. for especially this, your word that you will give us today to help guide us through our daily lives. May you bless all those attending this Bible study this morning that can only listen and and not key up the microphone. And maybe someday that they can, but may you bless them too, just as well as the ones that can speak on you. And anyhow, Father, may your will be done in all in your glory. And we thank you. Jesus Christ, holy name we pray, amen. Amen, Bert. Thank you so much for that prayer. May the Lord be pleased to grant each of those requests. All right, we are in 2 Corinthians 7, verses 8 through 16. And Roger WB7VZL, if you could read that section for us, we'll start discussing it. Go ahead, Roger. Yeah, just reading it, it sure describes the complexity and how seriously we should take our relationship with one another here. This is WB7VisitL, and I'll be reading from the New American Standard Bible. Verse 8: "For though I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it, though I did regret it; for I see that that letter caused you sorrow, though for only a little while. that you were made sorrowful, but that you were made sorrowful to the point of repentance. For you were made sorrowful according to the will of God, in order that you might not suffer loss in anything through us. For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation. But the sorrow of the world produces death. For behold, what earnestness this very thing, this godly sorrow, has produced in you! What vindication of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what longing, what zeal, what avenging of wrongs, in everything you demonstrated yourselves to be innocent in the matter. So, although I wrote to you it, it was not for the sake of the offender, for the sake of... I'll read that again in verse 12... "For although I wrote to you it was..." I'll try that again. I think I need to put the comma in another spot, I think. "So although I wrote to you, it was not for the sake of the offender, nor for the sake of the one offended, but that your earnestness on our behalf might be made known to you in the sight of God." For this reason we have been comforted; and besides our comfort, we rejoice even more, much more for the joy of Titus, because his spirit has been refreshed by you all. For if in anything I have boasted to you about you, I was not put to shame. But as we spoke all things to you in truth, so also our boasting before Titus proved to be the truth. And his affection abounds all the more toward you, as he remembers the obedience of you all, how you received him with fear and trembling. I rejoice that in everything I have confidence in you. That is quite a depiction of the emotional language put in print or in the letter. Back to you, Max, WB7VZL. Yeah, Roger, thank you for that reading. And you know, your comment is so true. We really see the heart and the emotional involvement of Paul in the language he uses, not only in this passage you just read, but throughout the whole book. This is the most emotional of all of Paul's letters, and it's one in which you really see his heart laid bare in terms of his anxieties, in terms of his affections, in terms of just the depth and degree of love that he had for these folks. All right, Roger, real good reading. All right, any comments on this passage? Please come now. Thank you. Kevin, go ahead. KB7ZXN. Boy, this is just such a powerful area of text. And I'm glad you touched on the love that Paul had because here we see the Spirit of God in full display working in the hearts. of the Corinthians, the church here. And as discussed before, you know, there had been someone or those that really made some false accusations and disparaging charges against Paul in his absence. And this came to the light of Paul, and apparently he wrote a very strong letter in response to that. And, you know, but the motivation of this clearly was love for them. And in that, but as he wrote that, you can see that it was very unsettling. You know, as a parent, sometimes we wonder, we discipline our kids, "Is that too much? Did I come on too harsh? What did I—you go a little overboard with that." But, you know, if it's a serious situation, you have to deal with it seriously and firmly. My mom often reminded me that, of a time, because when I was young, she'd always remind me that because I was getting in trouble because I was getting paddling or dad was going to come home and whoop my butt or something, that it was because, you know, I was a little I'm doing this because I love you." And she reminds me that I one time told her, "I just wish you didn't love me so much sometimes." And I think we've all felt that when we've been disciplined, and even disciplined by God. He disciplines those He loves. And clearly we see this here, but the response, the joy that we just read about yesterday that Paul had because it touched their heart. And the sorrow they had brought a desire to not only restore the relationship, and he talked about the mourning, the burden that it put on their heart, the sorrow, the godly sorrow they had. But then the zeal, Paul expresses that they even came to his defense. And what joy. But then he contrasts that with the sorrow of the world, how different that is. The sorrow, the conviction of the Spirit of God brings restoration. not only in relationships with one another, but importantly, points out the relationship with God. Because ultimately, when we sin, especially against your brother, but sin against anyone, we sin against God. But the godly star is more concerned with the consequence and only leads to death. The... sorrow of the conviction of the Holy Spirit leads to restoration. KB7 is that example. Yeah, Kevin, thank you for bringing out that contrast. You know, when it comes to breaking relationships, sin is always the cause of broken relationships. When I was doing counseling, and I know every pastor has dealt with this, a couple comes to you and they're having trouble. Well, the source of the trouble is always sin on the part of either one or the other or both. And the way to fix the relationship is to identify the sin, cause there to be an awareness of it, an ownership of it, a repentance of it. and then a practice of the opposite positive virtue of it and problem solved. So counseling is not real complicated. You don't have to have advanced degrees in psychology to figure out what's going on. All problems are the result of sin, and all blessings are the result of righteousness. And so, yeah, Kevin, you're right. The sin that was at Corinth was destroying their relationships with each other, and it was destroying their relationship with God. And so if we're going to be right with God and right with each other, we've got to repent of the sin that we're committing either against God or against each other. And, of course, that's why there was so much turmoil, as we read in 1 Corinthians in this church, is because there was so much sin in so many areas. I mean, in area after area after area, Paul was having to deal with sin here and sin there and sin in the other way. But it sounds like they heard him, and they repented of those sins, and that helped bring about peace between one another and between them and God. All right, other comments on the passage? Please come now. Okay, did I hear a call sign? Go ahead, try again. Okay. KJ7PVT. Okay, there's Mark. KJ7PVT. Mark, go ahead. Yeah, Max, I guess I'm listening to the SDR mostly, but I really like this verb "can" here. "About the soul produces repentance leading to salvation." Not to be regretted, but in contrast to it with the sorrow of the world produced death. And that kind of points out the real difference between the kinds of sorrow we have. One sorrow has its cause, as God. We're sorry for... When you have a relationship with someone, and in this case, the relationship is with God, you're very careful about what you do and when you find out. But that really hurts him, that he has sorrow. The Bible talks about God being sorrowful in ways, and that is that relationship is what makes the difference here. If you don't have a relationship with God, then really the sorrow that you're having is sorrowful. Not usually. I'm saying as a person or somebody who doesn't have a relationship with God, the only sorrow they can have is regret for something that is done. And there's no repair to that. There's very little repair. And in the case of sorrow things, there's no repair to it. That's basically the kind of the two differences of sorrow there. One having a relationship with God, one not. 887 CBT. Yeah, Mark, thank you for bringing out that contrast between godly sorrow and just the sorrow of this world. And the fact that one is always superficial and inadequate and really doesn't produce reconciliation, whereas the other does. And you know, I think it's useful for us to talk about the sorrow of this world, and godly sorrow and the distinction between them, and appreciate the way you brought that out, Mark. You know, the sorrow of this world is a sorrow for the consequences of our actions, like going to jail or suffering the loss of a marriage or experiencing personal shame. But in the final analysis, its concern is one's self. It's a selfish repentance. It's a repentance of self-pity rather than a sorrow for having done wrong. But ultimately, it produces no hatred of sin, no love for holiness, no change of heart. And the result is that this person goes right back to their sin and is ultimately destroyed by it because they never really did turn away from it, and indeed, they can't. As you said, Mark, if a person is unsaved... Well, you know, they don't have a truly repentant heart because the carnal mind is enmity against God. It's not subject to the law of God, and neither can it be. And so no unsaved person can ever have a true, genuine repentance that is thorough and that actually produces lasting change because there's still a love for sin. And if they give up one sin, they just wind up substituting another one for it. There's no genuine progress towards holiness. Alright, anybody else want to talk about this contrast between the sorrow of this world that works death and godly sorrow which works life? Please come down with your call sign. Kevin's out there. Kevin, KB7 ZXN, go ahead. Yeah, KB7 is, to that extent, very good. Yeah, this really is an important contrast. And this is why, though it's difficult and uncomfortable, not only as a pastor when you have to deal with it, kind of at a level as Paul is in a leadership position, but even from brother to brother. sin has to be dealt with and has to be brought out because ultimately it is a sin against God. And it is the same spirit of conviction of the Spirit. When Peter preached at Pentecost, he preached about the sin, that you called for the crucifixion of our Savior, of the Messiah, of Jesus. And thousands were convicted in their heart and repented and received the gift of salvation. We know thousands did not. And so as important, as difficult as it is It's never comfortable to address sin. But when the Spirit convicts the heart, you have a choice on how you're going to respond. Now, there is a contrast between that sin or that conviction and how you respond. You know, we... You know, in our penal system, we have, you know, many crimes that are considered rehabilitative. So when someone is caught in a crime, and oftentimes that crime, they're sentenced a period of time, and there may be some probation and parole, and then they have the opportunity to go through a rehabilitation process so that they can be restored back to society. But we also have some crimes that are not rehabilitative. Maybe the crime is so heinous, such a horrible murder, the murder of a child, the abuse of-- that's over the top. Well, that sentence sometimes is punitive. And that's where we call for the-- the culture is society and biblically based, we call for the death penalty for a capital punishment. That is not rehabilitative. Well, when you reject the conviction of the Holy Spirit and are not saved, and when you're with your sin, and yet Christ died for your sin and my sin, and if we are to reject that gift of grace, that consequence is punitive. That's eternal damnation, and that is death. That's not only... That's the second death. That's the eternal separation from God. You know, death is separation. When we die physically, we're separated from our bodies, but eternal damnation is second death. Eternal separation from God is a horrible thing, We often call that hell. And so anyway, there's a huge contrast. If we, and as believers, like I say, the Spirit of God is on full display here because we see the Spirit of God restoring relationships, not only with Paul, but with God, because they recognize the sin and the Spirit is working in them. This is showing some real spiritual growth. KB7, is that acceptable? Yeah, Kevin, well said. Thank you for those comments. I completely agree. And that's what we have to do. We have to say, well, am I blaming myself, or am I blaming God and others? Am I angry with myself for the sin I committed, or am I angry with God and others for exposing it, reproving it, and calling me to repentance for it? And of course, the assumption here is that you really did commit the sin, right? as the Corinthians clearly did. All right, good comments, Kevin. Other comments, please come out. KJ7 TV, Timur, go ahead. Just above that, for godly sorrow, for his repentance, his salvation. Just above that, he says your sorrow, let your repentance for you and me, sorry. in a godly manner that you might not suffer loss from us in nothing. And that is kind of speaking to Paul, what Paul has done in his work with bringing these people out of the place that they were in and then into the Christian community and establishing them in Christ. And this is... to create laws in that relationship. And I want to let you know that he's talking about a law. He has invested much in them. And had they not done what he asked, they would have suffered loss. There would have been a crumbling of the foundations of the state and what they've done here to what they did. and establish those foundations, we would be able to fix up the cracks, fix up the leaks, and now, all is able to put the fence through this, and he goes on a little bit further down there, he gives you a whole list of the way he just goes off the edge, how amazing this is, all of the things that happen when there's a leak. Even, you know, what diligence, what caring of yourself, and your nation with fear, even through all the emotions here, that the youth has gone through and all of those things have repaired that foundation that has this not happened. They would have suffered strong in what they've seen. They've gone a number of steps forward and taken one back or two back. And they're all in the same boat. showing that shame and that reprimandation in the special education in the CDC. Yeah, in the absence of true repentance, there's always tremendous loss, isn't there? And because the sin goes on, the consequences go on, and ultimately, eternal judgment goes on, as Kevin was saying. And so let's talk about this list here that Mark was referring to when in verse 11 he says... Behold, this selfsame thing that you sorrowed after a godly sword. And now he gives a description of the characteristics of godly sorrow. And he says, what carefulness it wrought in you. Whereas before there had been a thoughtful negligence in dealing with a matter, now there's an earnest care and an eagerness to deal with it in a vigorous diligence. They gave it their full attention, and they gave it their full effort. And then it says, what clearing of yourselves. They openly owned and confessed their wrongs. They apologized for their sin. And they fully owned and admitted what they had done. And then he says, what indignation. They were angry at themselves for their past behavior. He's not angry he got caught. He's not angry at God. He's not angry at the one who is confronting him. He's angry at himself for having done it. And then what fear. There's a fear of God's chastisement and fatherly displeasure. There's the fear of church discipline. There's the fear of the harm they may have caused to the reputation of Christ. There's a fear of where this would lead me if I continued on in it. And then he talks about this vehement desire, a strong desire to correct the wrong, to make amends, to change behavior, a strong desire to make things right with the one that they have wronged. And then he talks about zeal. And this is zealousness for the reformation of behavior. And what this is talking about is an unremitting, unslagging effort to thoroughly deal with the matter in all of its dimensions and aspects. It's not just a casual weak dealing, but it's a very strong dealing. And then finally, what revenge. And this is a strong desire to do the opposite of what was done. to cultivate good works in the punishment of the evil, to practice the opposite to positive virtue. So it's like we want to attack our sin, we want to destroy it, because it was trying to destroy us. So all of these are manifestations of a godly sorrow. And they demonstrate that they had a genuine, heartfelt sorrow that was thorough. And because it was thorough, the change was substantial, and the change was ongoing. And so they approved themselves to be free from justifying or defending the sin in any way. They cleared themselves of any further participation in this sin. And what you really see here is the intensity of their repentance, the comprehensive nature of their repentance, and the depth of their repentance. This was not casual, this was not partial, this was not shallow, this was thorough, and this was real. So, Mark, thank you for pointing out that list. And I think it's important that we understand those terms and how each of them contributes to the comprehensiveness and to the genuineness of this repentance. All right, other comments, please come now. Papa Alpha. Papa Alpha, please go ahead. Yeah, Max, if we want to see what this actually looks like, this verse 9, what it actually looks like, King David wrote his feelings out in Psalms, chapter 51 and it really strikes to the chord of what godly sorrow looks like and how he poured his heart out of of of his sin and it psalms 51 captures this very well 7 mpa Scott, thank you for bringing that out, because that is a perfect illustration of this list here that is contained in verse 11. And so I would add to that Psalm 38. Psalm 38 and Psalm 51 both have a real, profound, genuine description of a heart that is actually having godly sorrow and godly repentance. And so I know for myself, Scott, that when I fall into sin, and I hardly have words to say by way of repentance because I'm ashamed, I go to Psalm 51, and I pray that prayer for myself. And Psalm 38, I pray those prayers for myself. And David's prayers become mine. And that's a wonderful way to make sure that we're having a right attitude and a right perspective and a right response so that the repentance is genuine and it actually produces a blessed change of departure from that evil that we've done to doing righteousness in the future. So, Scott, thank you so much for pointing out Psalm 51. All right, any other comments, please come down. WB7VZL. Roger, WB7VZL, go ahead. Another Psalm to be noted, Psalm 32 as well, the blessedness of forgiveness and of trust in God, especially verse 3 through 5, I acknowledge my sin to thee, the focus in on the spiritual part of reconciliation is the God-based sorrow that we see David having. Thank you for those other psalms. All right, real good. Roger gave us another one. So Psalm 32, Psalm 38, Psalm 51. These are what we call penitential psalms. And these penitential psalms are when David is expressing penitence for the evil that he's done. So, Roger, thank you for that additional psalm. So we've got lots of guidance for ourselves as to what godly sorrow looks like. in our heart conversation with God as we read Psalm 32, Psalm 38, and Psalm 51. All right, other comments, please come out. Is that Xen? Is that Xen? Kevin, please go ahead. Yeah, outstanding points. And this is so critical, this area of text, because godly repentance... is not a passive thing. It's not a, oh, well, okay, I sinned, you know, let's move on now. No, this is the response. When the Spirit of God convicts your heart, and those are some wonderful examples in Psalm, and we see it throughout the Word of God, when true repentance takes place, And what a beautiful, because these seven things that are outlined here are so critical. This is the work of the fruits of the Spirit, if you will, when it comes to repentance. And, you know, and it also, as in us, we see here, too, how they really woke up and recognized the seriousness of sin. And how destructive. sin is and how much of an offense it is against God. And how so this sin, in fact, is so serious that God the Father sent his son to give himself a ransom for us that he would take that wrath of God upon himself and the consequence of sin upon him on our behalf. So we see here the recognition of the seriousness. and the gravity of sin as well. So it's so well expressed in these seven points here. And great comments by everyone there. KB7 is on the exam. Yeah, Kevin, I really appreciate you pointing out that sin is serious. It was serious enough that the Son of God had to die under the wrath of God on the cross. in order to expiate it. It's not a minor thing. And the measure of the evil of sin is the measure of the sorrow that Jesus had to go through in order to expiate it. And the measure of sin is also the punishment that is applied to the unrepentant. They spend eternity in hell. And so if that's the punishment, you can reason from the seriousness of the punishment to the crime. So if I come along and I say, yeah, so-and-so got 35 years in jail, you would immediately go, man, that must have been a serious crime. Because you look at the harshness of the sentence and you go, it takes serious crime to do that. Well, when you look at the harshness of God's sentence on his own son and on the unrepentant in hell for eternity, it tells you how serious sin is. It's nothing to fool around with. I mean, a number of people on this net have cancer. And we all recognize instantly cancer is serious business. This is not the common cold. This isn't even the flu. This is absolutely life-threatening if it's not dealt with. And so the same thing is true in the spiritual realm. The least sin will send us to hell, and the least sin requires the death of Jesus on the cross in order to expiate that sin. Kevin, I remember one of the old Puritans is John Owen, who said, either a man will be killing sin or sin will be killing him. Right? And the idea there is that this is a life and death battle. You know, you've got two guys with knives and they're going at it. One's going to live and one's going to die. They can't both live. And so when we're fighting sin, either we kill it or it kills us. And so it's nothing to fool around with, play at the edges of, think we can entertain just a little bit of it and it'll be fine. We'll control it. We won't let it get out of control. It doesn't work that way. So Kevin, this note that you brought out of how serious this is, is something that I really want to amplify in everyone's mind, especially when we understand what it costs for either its forgiveness or for us bearing the punishment for it ourselves if we refuse to repent and seek Jesus as our Savior. All right, other comments, please come down. Bob Alva. Bob Alva, please go ahead. Hi, I'm Bob Alva. Well, Max, I think the big takeaway that we can see about today's reading is the Corinth Church, these are our brothers and sisters in Christ. And they were starting to bump up against the guardrail here. And so Paul wrote this letter. But if we sit back and look at it, it's very interesting. the outcome and the way that they responded proved themselves innocent in a way because not that they're denying that they did wrong but how they turned and doubled down and recognized what they were doing and asked for repentance you know down on bended knees and clasped hands and really seeking God's face and repentance and You know, we're no different than those around the table this morning. You know, we have fallen in these footsteps. And so the big takeaway to me, Max, is this is how we reconcile. and this is how we ask God and it isn't like Kevin says it isn't a oh hum okay well let's dust this off the shelf no we got to dust the shelf and then we got to polish we got to take this polish and go deep into the wood this is serious business also Max I see that our brother Ron From Mexico, Missouri is listening in there on the Utah SDR. WB0JEE, and we've been lifting Ron up, what he's been going through with Dorsea. So just wanted to point out that, Ron, when you're here, you're with family, and we care about you. Back there to you, Max. WB7MAX and 7MPA. Right, Scott, real good. I appreciate that. And Ron, thank you for being with us. Also, the net would like to acknowledge James, K7OAO. See you there on the Utah SDR as well. Scott, great comment. You know, you're right. What these people are doing is they're proving that they are actually saved. You know, repentance, genuine heartfelt repentance, is a sign of genuine salvation. And the thing of it is, is that, you know, People who don't repent, people who self-justify, people who continue on having sin dominating in their lives are demonstrating that they're not saved. You know, there's an awful lot of people who profess to be Christians who aren't. And one of the marks of that is that, you know, they never act repentant about their sins. They never say they're sorry to God or to others. But there's just this constant narcissistic self-justification and blame-shifting and going on in these patterns of behavior without any sense of a check of conscience or any sense that, oh, you know, I hurt God and I hurt others. There's none of that. So you're right, Scott. Repentance is a sign of salvation. And what the Corinthians were doing is proving by their response to these rebukes and by their repentance of their sin that they are genuinely saved people. Because genuinely saved people do commit sins, and sometimes they commit terrible sins. but they can't remain in them. They can't be comfortable in their sin. And it's not very long before they repent and they get right with God and they acknowledge that and they go on because the new nature simply will not tolerate self-justification of sin. It always calls us up. And that's to us, you know, you've got to get this right. And we're never happy until we get it right. So, Scott, thank you for that. All right, any comments before we go to prayer? Please come down with your call sign. Roger, go ahead. Any time that you have had a church going through any sort of sexual misbehavior, and it has to be called out and repented of. We're dealing with a very dividing issue. Oftentimes people take sides over this, and it splits the church. And for a pastor to survive... a church. This experience takes incredible humility, incredible, like Kevin says, Holy Spirit guidance. And also, I just want to again underline, as our text does, the importance the incredible ambassadorship of Titus, to be able to be Paul's representative and to guide this ship that's been basically wounded by sin, and to pull it together in unity where they want to see the leaders that had to take the blindfolds off that sin provides. You know, it reminds us that they were, they led the church in seeing the light. And oftentimes in the church, people don't want to see the light. They just want to cover it up and sweep it under the rug, as we've seen so much, even in our media, the revelations of this horrible sin. And I must say that that partly where Autumn became homeless is because she revealed the facts of sin, and she was disowned by her family due to it. So she has no family. And it is tragic. And This example is truly an amazing miracle. Go over. Well said, Roger. And you know, what happens in situations of church discipline is that the saved and the lost, the true professors and the false professors are really revealed. And so you're right, a lot of times dealing with sin like this in a church causes a church to split. And how painful it is to see people depart from the church, depart from God, because they won't repent of their own sins or they are wanting to justify the sins of others. So as Scott was saying, the fact that the Corinthian church pulled together, stayed changed their behavior with a sign that you had a body of genuinely saved folks here. And I can't tell you how many pastors are afraid to deal with sin in their church because they know that part of the congregation is probably not saved, and if they deal with it, they're going to get angry and they're going to leave. And there goes the church budget and the church reputation and all those things. So, yeah, dealing with sin really reveals who's born again and who is not. I got a great comment here from Daryl WB7AOT, and I want to read this to you. He says, Great discussion. Yes, the default for human beings born in this world is eternal death. So most of the billions of people born throughout the history of this world will meet with eternal death. It's only through repentance and the belief in Jesus Christ that we can be rescued from this eternal death and instead be given eternal life. And you are right. Without repentance there's no salvation. I mean, we're talking about believers repenting of ongoing sin, but for salvation there has to be this initial repentance of me as a sinner and the sins that I've committed and the fact that I want to stop. rebelling against God, and I want to start submitting to God and following Him. So Paul says to the Ephesian elders there in Acts 20, You know how I preach to you, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. So without repentance, there's no salvation. And then after salvation, we live a life of repentance, because sin continues to beset us, though it doesn't dominate us. and so repentance is something we need to constantly practice all the days of our life until the day comes that we'll never need to repent again because Christ will have made us perfect in the resurrection. All right, we are way out of time, so we're going to stop here today. But great passage, great discussion. Thank all of you for your contributions and your comments. All right, I'm asking for any final prayer requests that anybody has before we go to prayer. Please come out. All right, well, let's go to prayer. Our kind and gracious Father, we thank you so much for this passage and for the reminder that real Christians do sin. But when they sin, they also have real retentiveness. And so, Lord, we thank you that if we confess our sins to your faithful and just, forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Help our repentance to be genuine, help it to be heartfelt, help it to be ongoing, and help it to be transformative so that we actually do depart from the works of the flesh and we actually do practice the fruit of the Spirit in our lives. Father, may we continue to grow, and may we see sin for the seriousness that it has. and for the destructive nature and that we can't harbor it because it will destroy us if we tolerate it and try to just live with it. Father, help us to do what's necessary by way of creating guardrails, as Scott said. to be able to not fall into those sins again. Father, we've got a bunch of prayer requests today, and we just thank you that we can't tire you out with our prayer requests, that the throne of grace is also a throne of infinite patience, infinite mercy, and infinite willingness to hear our cries and to respond to them. Father, we just want to pray today for our brother Keith WB7RKR's wife, Ronnie, had her heart ablation surgery yesterday. Lord, we pray for her recovery. We hear she's doing well. Lord, we pray that through this, blood flow would improve to her brain. And Father, she would recover some of her mental faculties that she's struggling with losing. And so, Lord, we just ask your blessing on Keith. And, Ronnie and Father, may you just cause them both to rejoice in your good hand upon them and upon their marriage and upon their health. Father, our hearts are grieved for Samuel and Stephanie, Jim N7BKE's grandchildren. Uh, Father, they're having a stillbirth today. The baby's heart quit beating. And Lord, we just pray that you would give them peace, that you would give them comfort. And Father, that you would help them just trust you with your reason for allowing this child to die in the womb. And Lord, I just ask for healing. I pray that Samuel and Stephanie would draw closer to each other and closer to you through this tragedy. of the loss of their child in the womb. To give Jim in 7BKE wisdom in speaking words of comfort to his grandson and granddaughter-in-law. Father, I just ask for peace there. Lord, we pray for Beck, Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, and his wife, Sandy. They're traveling to Eugene today, Father, up over the coast range. Lord, I just pray that you would give them a safe journey. and may the lab results come back good. And, Lord, I just pray that this hip replacement that Sandy's going to have on April 1st would go really, really well and that there would be a quick recovery and full mobility very soon. Father, we just thank you for her. Lord, we just want to pray for Carol, KK7TPO. Her grandson has an appointment with a custody attorney today. And, Lord, we just pray that that goes really well and that what is best for little Alice would be accomplished. Father, this girl needs safety. She needs protection. Father, she needs love. And, Lord, in the midst of an ugliness of a custody battle, May the best interest of the child be served through this process. Lord, just have mercy on little Alice. Father, we just want to pray today for our brother Pete, W6NOX. His aunt is dying. She's 98 years old. Lord, we just pray for Pete and his peace and comfort over the death of his aunt. And Lord, we pray that you would take her to be with yourself. We trust that she is a believer in Christ. We don't know for sure, but Lord, have mercy on her. Father, we just want to pray today for Will. He likes to fight Foxtrot and his friend Gordon. who has AFib. And Lord, I pray that you would heal Gordon of his heart condition. And Father, may he know a good, solid, steady heartbeat. Lord, we pray for Rita there in Monroe, Louisiana, that she would return home to her family. Lord, not sure what the dynamics are there or who's at fault. But Lord, you do. And so Lord, I pray that there would be a peace, a restoration, of whatever ruptured relationships are there, keep Rita safe, and cause her to make godly choices. Father, we just want to pray for Rick. Roger WB7BCL has been ministering to Rick, who's in a coma. Father, it may be that he's going to die, but Lord, it sounds like he had some recognition of Roger's ministry to him. Lord, I just pray that your angels would send Rick. and that you would be pleased to bring him home to be with yourself in due time. Father, we just want to pray today for Kevin, TB7 ZXN. Lord, his voice is up and down and in and out. And I pray for the healing of his vocal cords or his throat or his lungs or whatever the situation is there so he can talk freely. Lord, just heal his voice. Lord, we pray for our brother Doc W6RLJ, who has a medical mission to the South Pacific. Lord, he's going to be coming back, I believe, on the 14th. And Lord, I just pray that in these last days of the ministry that you would open hearts to the gospel and a multitude of people would become saved. Father, we pray for our brother Keith, K7NEB, who's traveling until March 16th. Lord, give him safety and bringing back to the Bible study here, well, healthy, and refreshed from his journey. And then, Father, we want to pray for our brother Ron, WB0JAE. Father, his wife, Dorcia, is really struggling with health issues. Father, and we just ask for a miracle of healing. And, Lord, if that is not your will, then we pray that you would just take her peacefully to be with yourself. Lord, give Ron peace. faith and peace and joy in the promises. And Father, we recognize we're all headed towards death. And Lord, the good news is, is that death is the doorway into heaven for believers in Christ, as Darrell WB70AOT made clear to us in his text message. And Lord, I just ask that each one on this net and each one listening and each one that we're praying for would all be reconciled to you through repentance of sin and faith in Jesus Christ. And so, Lord, we also want to bring before you our dear brother Lee, AL7KG. Father, we just pray your blessing on his work. We pray your blessing on his travels. And Father, give him wisdom. and grace to deal with each challenge each day as it comes up Father just fill him with strength fill him with grace extend to him mercy Lord to relieve whatever distress is are in his life. And Lord, just build him up in the faith, in his knowledge of the scriptures, and in his walk with you. Lord, we just thank you for all of these things. And then, Father, we pray for our brother Mike, N7FFM. We pray for the recovery of his taste and smell after having COVID. We also heard, Father, that he's struggling with some other illness right now. So, Lord, heal him, we ask. Thank you for our brother Jim N7BKE and for the zeal that he shows in sharing the gospel with others. And Lord, he's in a fertile mission field. I pray that you would open doors and open hearts and bring people out of the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of light through Jim's ministry. Father, we just pray for the salvation of all of our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren. Father, this is the next generation to carry the gospel torch forward. Lord, work grace in their hearts. Protect them from the ways of the world and the effects of Satan. And Father, cause their parents or others to be faithful in bringing the gospel to them. And Lord, we pray that you would save them. Father, we just want to pray for Mariah, Brian's secretary. And Lord, we pray that she would read her Bible. We pray that she would embrace Christ with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength. We pray also for Avery and Zoe, that they would also become saved, become married, and become godly parents to little five-year-old Alex. Lord, we pray for Zoe's pregnancy. It must be getting close. for her delivery of another child. So, Lord, redeem that home. Unify that home around Jesus Christ. And may Alex and the new baby become saved. Give bright wisdom and ministry to all of those folks. And, Lord, I just pray that your power would defeat the power of Satan that has brought sin into those people's lives. Lord, we just pray for our brother James, K70AO. He asked us to pray for Judy to regain her ability to speak after her stroke. Lord, have mercy on Judy. We pray that you would connect the nerves in the brain and with the vocal cords in the tongue and the mouth so that she could speak with clarity. Lord, we just want to bring before you today all the victims of sexual child abuse. Lord, we just pray for these children, that you would heal them, and that you would deliver them, and that you would bring judgment on those who would harm them. And now Lord, we just pray for your goodness, your mercy, and your grace. to each one of us. Father, thank you for the gift of your Son, Jesus Christ. Lord, we do repent of our sins. We do trust in him as our Savior. And Father, we pray that his saving grace would defeat the remaining sins in our life and that, Lord, we would just really be able to know victory and joy. and peace in our walk with you. Father, we ask all of these things in the name of Jesus Christ, our Savior. Amen. All right, this is WB7MX, Net Control for the West Coast Bible Study. I want to thank all the stations who checked in today and those who stood by to give us a clear operating frequency. We meet here seven days a week at 6 a.m. to read the Scriptures, understand their meaning, message, and application. and then to pray for grace and mercy, to live out what we learned, and for God to meet the needs of those that are in our circle of fellowship. I'll be returning this frequency now to regular amateur use. This is WB7MX. I'll be clear and standing by. Five Yankee. Five Yankee. Go ahead. Are you ready for today's joke? I am. What did the cookie go... I'm sorry. Why did the cookie go to the doctor? Why did the cookie go to the doctor? Let's see. Why did the cookie go to the doctor? Because he was nuts? Because he was feeling crummy. The cookie went to the doctor because he was feeling crummy. That's good, Beck. Thank you for that. All right. Any other comments out there? Come on ahead. K6, okay. All right, Jeff. Yeah, that was a funny one. I always appreciate those, Beck. It gives us a good laugh and lift to go on with our day. Hey Max, did you get to look at that video yesterday? You're talking about the thing that you sent me via text message? Yeah, the horse trainer. Yeah, I didn't have to go through it. I started watching it and then I had other things I had to do, but I did not get a chance to watch it. So tell me what your thoughts are. It's absolutely amazing. This guy trains horses. He'll take an unbroken horse, bring it into a church, or they bring an arena. And he, over a period of about an hour, fully breaks the horse and refers all of it to us and God. And it is astounding. Thank you. Yeah, you know, what an illustration. And, you know, people never forget that, right, as they see that. You know, I remember people used to do chalk talks in church as well where an artist would draw something on the board and talk about the gospel as he drew. And, you know, those are powerful illustrations because you not only hear the message verbally, you also see it. and getting it both through the eye and the ear. And that's why telling stories is so powerful, because you're painting a word picture in people's minds as well as telling them the truth in their ears. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to finish watching that and appreciate you sending that to me. because you know it's probably a good illustration of how God breaks down his anger and brings him to repentance and humility and obedience before him is that correct? yeah you know I think I was mesmerized by this guy a friend of mine Billy's grandson is a really good friend of mine he and I were talking and he said you gotta look this guy up this guy's got quite a ministry going and what was so astounding to me is he the horse obviously was very leery of this guy and he you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you