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### Bible Study Summary: The Nature of Love

#### Introduction
This Bible study delves into the profound nature of love as described in 1 Corinthians 13, a passage that defines love not just as an emotion, but as a set of actions and attitudes that reflect the character of God. The group discussed various aspects of love, emphasizing its patience, kindness, and selflessness. These qualities are essential for building strong relationships and communities, reflecting the love of Christ.

#### Love is Patient and Kind
Love is patient, meaning it is slow to be aroused to resentment and waits for a person's behavior to change and mature. This patience is not passive but active, involving a willingness to give others time to grow and improve. Kindness, on the other hand, is a course of action towards others, ministering to them with compassion and gentleness. Kindness involves acts of service and care, reflecting the heart of Christ.

**Discussion Questions:**
- How can we practice patience in our daily interactions?
- What are some ways to show kindness to those around us?

#### Love Does Not Envy or Vaunt Itself
Love does not envy others when they receive blessings from God. Instead, it rejoices with them. Love also does not brag on itself or seek admiration or applause. These qualities reflect humility and a focus on others rather than self-promotion. Love is not arrogant, conceited, or proud, but rather seeks to build others up.

**Discussion Questions:**
- How can we guard against envy in our relationships?
- What are some examples of vainglory in our lives, and how can we avoid them?

#### Love Maintains Social Propriety and Is Not Selfish
Love maintains social propriety and does not unnecessarily offend others. This means avoiding actions that could be seen as rude or offensive, such as making jokes at others' expense. Love is not selfish; it has more concern for others than for itself. Philippians 2:3-4 and Romans 12:10 emphasize putting others first, which is a key aspect of Christian love.

**Discussion Questions:**
- How can we ensure our actions are socially appropriate?
- What are some practical ways to put others before ourselves?

#### Love is Slow to Anger and Forgives
Love is not easily provoked, meaning it is slow to anger and restrained. Jesus is an example of patience under provocation. Love does not keep a record of wrongs but forgives and trusts God to work out justice. Love puts the best construction on what others do, assuming the best until proven otherwise.

**Discussion Questions:**
- How can we practice patience and restraint when provoked?
- What does it mean to forgive and trust God for justice?

#### Love Rejoices in the Truth and Not in Iniquity
Love does not rejoice in sin or lawlessness but rejoices in the truth. Love upholds biblical truth and operates in reality, intolerant of falsehood and lies. This means standing up for the truth even if it is unpopular, and not participating in things displeasing to God.

**Discussion Questions:**
- How can we stand up for the truth in our communities?
- What are some examples of rejoicing in the truth rather than iniquity?

#### Prayer Requests
The group also shared prayer requests for various individuals and situations, including safety and good fellowship during travel, medical test results, recovery from surgeries, wisdom in preparing for licenses, repentance and return to Christ, relief from pain, healing of chronic conditions, employment, vaccine and healing, immunotherapy treatment, patience and wisdom in dealing with challenges, full recovery from heart surgery, and national issues of rejecting lies and embracing truth.

**Discussion Questions:**
- How can we support each other in prayer?
- What are some ways to pray for those in need?

#### Closing
The study concluded with thanks to participants and an invitation to continue joining future sessions. Participants were encouraged to apply the principles of love discussed in their daily lives, fostering a community that reflects the love of Christ.

**Discussion Questions:**
- How can we apply the principles of love in our daily lives?
- What steps can we take to foster a community that reflects Christ's love?

This Bible study offers a comprehensive look into the nature of love as described in 1 Corinthians 13, emphasizing the importance of these qualities in building a Christ-centered community.
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So whenever it clears off, it gets cold. Whenever the cloud cover comes, it gets warm again. All right, other station that tried to check in alongside Will, please come now. WB7, how you doing? All right, there's Darrell, WB7AOT in Ham Lake, Minnesota. Good morning, Darrell. How you doing? Good morning, Max, and everyone on the net this morning. Have a great study. Sun's up 10 degrees already here in Minnesota. Other side, this is WCAL. All right, Darrell, real good. We got you checked in. Appreciate you being there. And you always have the coldest temperatures around for anyone checking in on the net. All right, that's Gerald, WB7AOT, other stations, come now. Okay, there's Brian, KJ7PW. Brian, that is the clearest I've heard you in a long time. Talk to me. Well, that's good. The bomb is 41 and probably here in... All right, real good. No new purge. Quest 41 degrees. Brian, good to hear your voice. All right, we've got a lovely band today. Okay, any other check-ins this morning? Please come down. And there's Mike, W7TWO. Good morning, Mike. How are you doing? Doing well, Master. I hope the same for everybody on the map. Anyway, you're doing okay and no new prayer requests. Copy. Okay, copy. You're doing okay. No new prayer requests. And we got you checked in there, Mike. Thanks for being there. All right, other check-ins. Come now. Right, the net would like to acknowledge JR, K6LVP. Good morning, JR. See you there in the Utah SDR. Appreciate you being there. Okay, that's JR. And, JR, we're continuing to pray for Gary at W6GLB and his cancer and his immunotherapy. Any updates on that at all, JR? Go ahead. Alright, sounds like JR's just listening today, which is perfectly fine. We will just continue to parade. Okay, any other check-ins from West Coast Bottle Study, please come down. Well, there's our girl Carol, KK7TPO. Good morning, Carol. How are you doing? Okay, copy, you're doing well, no new prayer requests. Carol, good to hear your voice, we've got a nice band today. Alright, any other check-ins, please come down. AK6OK. Oh, there he is, AK6OK, I got you checked in already by way of relay from Scott, N7NPA. Is Dan, N6T and I there with you? He better be Dan. Wake up, buddy. Ah, he's listening anyway. Your microphone's going out this afternoon. It's back already. I was checking it out yesterday. Real good, Jeff. I really appreciate that, and what a wonderful gift. All right, so we got Dan checked in. We got Jeff checked in. Other check-ins, please come now. All right, well, hearing nothing, we are going to get started with our West Coast Bible study. And Jeff, when the time comes, I'm going to ask you to open a prayer for us. So stand by for that, Jeff at K6OK. But before we get started with opening prayer, we want to just kind of lay out our passage today. We are in 1 Corinthians chapter 13. And 1 Corinthians chapter 13 is right in the middle of the section dealing with the issue of spiritual gifts. And what we have seen is the importance of love in the exercise of spiritual gifts. And so we have seen previously that eloquence without love is worthless, that we have every linguistic tool and talent at our disposal. If we don't speak with love, we're just like tinkling brass and the founding symbol. Understanding without love is useless. Though we can know it all, we can still accomplish nothing if we don't love the people that we're trying to teach. And then we saw self-sacrifice without love is valueless. It doesn't matter how much we sacrifice for people and the cause of the kingdom. If it's not motivated by love for God and love for others, then that accomplishes nothing as well. So having seen the necessity of love, we then begin to look at the nature of love. We began that study yesterday, and we saw... that there were numerous characteristics here of love. In fact, 15 of them. Seven of them, what love does. And eight of them, what love does not do. Now, we got through about the first six of those, and we saw that... Love is a kind. No, let's see. I've got my list messed up here. Yeah. We start out with the fact that love is patient. And then we saw that love was kind. So love is slow to be aroused to resentment. And we are patient. when people do things that irritate us, and instead of retaliating, we need to wait for that person's behavior to change and mature. So love is patient. And then we saw, secondly, that love was kind. And kindness is not a feeling. It's a course of action towards others. in which we minister to them with compassion and gentleness. And then thirdly, we saw love does not envy. And here's someone who is not jealous when others receive good and blessing from God. And then fourthly, we saw love does not vaunt itself. That is, it doesn't brag on itself and say, hey, look at me, how wonderful I am. It doesn't seek to win admiration or applause. And then we saw that love is not puffed up. And what that means is that it's not arrogant, conceited, proud, doesn't think more highly of itself than it ought to think. So that's where we covered yesterday. Today we're going to begin with that sixth attribute of love, that it does not behave itself in an unseemly fashion. So we're going to start out there. We're going to proceed through the remainder of this list, God willing, today. But we'll talk about it as much as we need to to properly understand it and apply it to our lives. Okay, so that's where we are at. We want to get started with prayer, and we will reread this section in 1 Corinthians 13, verses 4 to 7. I'm going to ask Jerry, AE7ER, if Jerry would read for us when the time comes. Jerry, that will be 1 Corinthians 13, 4 to 7. But before Jerry reads, I want Jeff AK6OK to open in prayer for us. Jeff, please go ahead. Thank you, Max. Good morning, everybody around the round table this morning. Let's pray. Lord, thank you so much for waking us up. As we get a little bit older every day, we start to realize there's such a gift. And we just pray for all those out there that it's not such a gift for that. It's happening a lot lately, certainly as I look around. And I pray that today this will all stick with us, Lord. This is the basis for most marriages when they start to seem to go off the track very quickly. So let's concentrate on this very, very closely this morning. Please help us to just stick with us, Lord, no matter what age we are. And thank you so much in your precious name. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much, Jeff, for that prayer. Really appreciate that. All right, Jerry, 87 yard. If you could read for us, 1 Corinthians 13, 4 to 7. quite from the New American Standard. Love is patient. Love is kind, and it is not jealous. Love does not brag, and it's not arrogant. It does not act unbecomingly. It does not seek its own. It does not provoke. does not take into account wrongs suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things. Back to you, 8E7 here. Alright Jerry, real good reading. Thank you for that. Okay, so we're on that sixth attribute of love. Love does not behave itself unseemly. Any comments on that attribute? Please come down with your call sign. 5 Yankee? Okay, I thought I heard Beck's voice. We might have had a double there. Beck, go ahead. Yeah, I'm sorry, I need to go back. Does not think it's own. Does that mean doesn't seek confirmation of love? It means that it's not selfish. We'll be covering that after this one. So seeks not her own. We'll talk about that in a minute, but it just means that it's not focused on itself, but it's focused on others. But right now we're talking about love does not behave itself unseemly, which is the one just before that. So we'll cover that in a second there, Beck. Was there another comment in there? Other station, come now. Katie, I... Go ahead. Yeah Max, one second. Okay, yeah, the point I wanted to make here is, if "uncomely" or "does not behave rudely"... Yeah, you went off frequency there after you said the word "rudely." Please come with your comment again and retune. Okay, unable to copy. Somehow you've gone off frequency. Try again, please. Okay, Max, I should be fine now. Yeah, you are. Go ahead. I apologize, yeah, I'm not confident with this microphone. I'm not used to it, so I pushed it accidentally. But anyway, getting back to the boundary here, does not behave rudely. That's a process that each of us have to deal with each and every day in dealing with the people in whom we come contact. What I look at is the fact that I need to put others, again, and I know we're going to get to that verse, above myself. I have to stop thinking more about me. I need to think about them and don't be rude. When I look at Christ, he always taught with authority. He always taught with compassion, with love. And that's what needs to be displayed from each of us. Don't be rude. You know, it's easy to be rude. That doesn't take any effort. But to be compassionate, loving, and kind, as we've already talked about, but not to be rude, but to look at that person and not provoke them, but to try to encourage them. Be a part of this. Be a son of encouragement and try to show them that the gospel in Christ is going to fill your heart, is going to do the right thing. And so when you have that attitude, being rude just isn't part of your characteristics of the immigration system. You know, QL7, Papa Delta, Indian. Yeah, David, real good and well said. Love maintains social propriety, doesn't it? Okay? And so we don't do things that unnecessarily offend other people. You know, making jokes about other people's persons or their appearance or not minding your manners at the table. You know, behaving in such a way that, you know, you're not causing other people to feel offended. negative towards you unnecessarily. We see that the Corinthians are being really rude in the way in which they celebrated the Lord's Supper. You know, they weren't waiting for each other. They weren't sharing with each other. The poor were shamed by the rich. And so there was a great deal of social impropriety that was going on there. So, for example, when you go into somebody else's house, wipe your feet first. Say thank you when somebody gives stuff to you. Take a bath. Brush your teeth. And then speak in such a way that people smile instead of frown at the way in which you said something and the tone of voice. that you use, all of those things reflect social sensitivity. They all reflect thinking of others, like what is the impact of my behavior, my words, my conduct on this other person's emotions and feelings. Great comment there, David. Thank you. Other comments, come now. I will. Keep it like it's five o'clock. It doesn't force itself on others. It's another simple one that's used in the message. And NASB does not act unbecomingly by this. Yeah, thanks for sharing those insights and those other translations. And, you know, I think that those words are helpful in rounding out our understanding of this concept. Okay, other comments come now. All right, so Paul says when he's with the Jew, he behaves like a Jew. When he's with the Greeks, he behaves like a Greek. He says, I become all things to all men that I might by all means win some. And so I think that all falls into this category of having social graces. and being socially appropriate in the way in which we deal with people. That's going to vary from culture to culture, right? Some places there are certain social customs that are expected. In others, it's going to be different. So let's be sincere to that. All right, let's move on to the next one, number seven, love seeks not her own. Other translations say love is not selfish. Any comments there? Go ahead. Damn five of us. Go ahead. Another one says, "It's not always me first." Kind of like a two-year-old or a narcissist came to them. Yeah, right. Narcissists and two-year-olds all want to be me first. And you can always see that in conversations where people just endlessly talk about themselves. But as soon as the conversation shifts to someone else, they're all done and they drift away. Or they bring the conversation back to themselves again. And so one of the things love does is it has more concern for others than it has for itself. And so a selfish person is always thinking about my feelings and my preferences and my ego and my image, whereas a loving person is thinking about others and what's best for them. Okay, other comments come now. PDI. PDI, go ahead. Yeah, I want to follow up on that one. It's very good because Paul addressed it not only here, but he addresses it in Philippians 2, verses 3 and 4 when he says, Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Let each one, you know, let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also the interests of others. Then he comes back in Romans 12 as well in verse 10, be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. Again, always putting others first shows the humility that Christ showed. He always cared about others. He was seeking and saving the lost. And to do that, you have got to be humble and put others before yourselves. And surely Jesus did that for us. He was the only seven-papa that dealt with India. Back to you, Max. Yeah, David, you absolutely captured the essence of what this is about. A person who loves thinks of others and meets their needs before he thinks of himself and meets his own. All right, real good. Let's move on to number eight here. Love is not easily provoked. Any comments on that one? KJ7, PVT. Port, KJ7, PVT, go ahead. Yeah, this is really describing Christ as he went, he set himself to be crucified and as he stands before Pilate. In Isaiah, it says that he was led like a lamb to the slaughter and he didn't open his mouth. We have the very creator of the universe standing in front of Pilate, who has the ability at any time to just shut the whole thing down if he wanted to, and yet look at the self-control and the purpose that he has. He had us in mind when he was standing in front of that. a man and was being sent to a horrible death and yet he didn't open his mouth with the self-control that he has and the purpose that he had in his mind so the things that we do uh we that we're being asked to do uh there should be a purpose from god and with that in mind we keep that as the highest priority and not what we think or how we feel and uh Christ is an amazing example for that right there, KJ7 TVC. Yeah, amen, Mark. Well said. What an example of patience under provocation that Jesus is, in that he was slow to anger, and he restrained himself. even when he had every just cause, to be furious at the way in which Caiaphas and Annas were treating him in the Jewish trial, and the way Pilate was treating him in the Roman trial. Well said, Mark. Thank you for that. Christ is a great example of one who is not easily provoked when he is being abused. All right, other comments come now. All right, well, this is kind of the flip side of our first attribute of love, and that is that love suffers long. That is, love is patient. It's slow to be aroused to resentment, and here love is slow to be aroused to anger. And, of course, this is a manifestation of long-suffering. It says in Proverbs 16.32, He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty. And he that rules his spirit is better than he that takes a city. So love does not get angry when somebody does something that displeases us. You know, there's a place for righteous anger at sin, but the way that is expressed is with patience. with long-suffering and with a non-retaliatory spirit. All right, let's move on to the next one here. Love thinks no evil. Any comments on this one? Please come down. All right, well, some versions translate this, love does not keep a record of wrongs. And the term here is a bookkeeping term that means to calculate or to reckon. It means to make a permanent entry that can be consulted later. And so the idea here is that not only do we, you know, not plan evil against others... When others have done us wrong, we forgive them. When there's an effort for forgiveness, for repentance and confession, and even when they don't, you know, we give it to God. And we trust him to work out justice in his time and in his way. So any other comments on this ninth attribute of love? Come down. TDI. TDI, go ahead. Yeah, I'm thinking no evil, but... the day in which we live, the world is full of evil. And it's hard sometimes when you see the evil as they prosper, and they do things... and they flaunt it in front of you, it's hard. But at the same time, as a child of God, we understand that God's in control. The sun shines upon the good as well as the evil. But we have to keep our focus and be silent and let God do his part. Sometimes we want to react, but when those times come, He's given us the antidote. When anxieties come in our lives, we're to pray. And when we pray to God, He will deal with that and He will help us then to refocus on what's truly important, and that's the love of God and where we're going. We have our destiny. We already know where that's at. He secured that for us. We have our tickets. Now just continue to focus on going home as Jesus did. The whole time He was here, He was looking to the cross and going home. And when we focus in that way, we will not think of this evil. We will keep it out of our lives and focus on those things which are more positive, which is sharing that gospel with others so they can go home too. T-Hawk, H-O-7, Papa Delta, India, back to you, Max. Yeah, real good and well said, David. You know, I think that one of the problems people have is they let bitterness build up because of injustices that are done, because they keep revisiting. They keep revisiting the evil that was done to them in the past. And, you know, once we've made efforts to reconcile with those people, and there is no reconciliation because there's no confession of sins, We can just give that to God and let that bitterness and that malice and that mulling over the injustice, we can let it go into the hands of God. And, you know, I think there's another dimension here, and that is that love puts the best construction on what others do. You know, when people do stuff and we only have part of the information, it's really easy for us to evil surmise and to conclude that, "Oh, you know, they meant something awful by that." And, you know, when you can put a good construction on what people do, I think we always need to go that way until there's proof positive. that in fact they did mean evil. And I think part of the problem is that people instantly jump to a negative conclusion about what someone meant, by what someone said, or by what they did, because, you know, we are much more prone to believe an evil report than a good report. It's just part of our remaining depravity. And so one of the ways I take this verse, love thinks no evil, is that I don't think evil of other people. If they say something or do something, I try to figure out, well, how is that something that was positive or how is that good? I'm sure they meant well by that and respond as though they meant well. And, you know, that's the soft answer that turns away wrath. So we don't keep records of wrongs, we're not looking for wrongs, we're not trying to find wrongs. On the contrary, we're trying to see good in what other people do, however defectively they may have tried to do it. So, great comments. Any other comments on Love Thinks Still Evil or Keep Still Records of Wrongs? Please come down. KJ7PVT? KJ7PVT, Mark, go ahead. In Romans 4:19 we're told to leave room for God's justice. You know, many times we have our own idea of what justice should be, and that's not what God has in mind, and so it says to give us, to give. Back to you, Max. KJ7PBT. Well said, Mark. Yeah, let God handle it and just return good for evil, and that's the best way to deal with that. All right, thank you for that, Mark. Great comment. Okay, let's move on to the next one. It says, love rejoices not in iniquity. Any comments on that phrase? Come now. - PDI. - PDI, go ahead. - Yeah, what he's talking here, we know the word iniquity means sin, and iniquity can also be lawlessness, and so we're not gonna rejoice in those things. We see a world today that's rejoicing in law breaking and doing things that are unjust and unrighteous. We should never rejoice in that, but we rejoice in the truth, obviously. That's the other part of that verse six. So we're going to always be a type of Christian that looks at the truth of the matter and examines it according to God's word. And when we see things that are being done, because the eagles, you know, you can't forget the last thought there, things tell evil, but you rejoice, and we do not rejoice in iniquity. So we're not going to promote those things. We're not going to be part of that. We are to be separate and set apart as Christians. We have to have the same look that Jesus did. Each day we should look more like him. Iniquity would not be something that we would rejoice in. Rather, we would speak to that iniquity with truth. So to show that what they're doing is wrong, but to do it in a compassionate and gentle way, and that they can see the beauty that is in God and in His Word. Teal, teal, seven, prophet, tell David about G-M-A-C. Yeah, amen. Well said, David. And I think, you know, we need to understand that that which offends God should offend us. Does God ever enjoy iniquity? Does He enjoy sin? Does He enjoy looking at it, seeing it? Is God entertained by iniquity? And the answer to all those questions is absolutely not. You know, God forbid. And so we need to have the same attitude towards sin that he does, and that is we're offended by it, we're horrified by it, and we don't want to derive any enjoyment or pleasure from it. And, you know, it's often the case that most entertainment is about rejoicing in iniquities. And it's important for us to recognize that if this is offensive to God, this should be offensive to me. All right, other comments, please come down. Papa Alpha. Follow-up. Oh, we've got Papa Alpha, and then we'll do the follow-up. Papa Alpha, go ahead. All right. What this can kind of look like to me, Max, is I've seen concrete poured years ago and then maintained, and it looks really good today. And I've seen concrete that's been poured and never... Never washed or scrubbed or nothing, and it breaks down over time. The moss gets into it, and then it has a little crack, and then the rain gets into it, and then it freezes, and it busts apart. This is the same way. So in order to keep... our love and what we're talking about on the street, we need to go to our quiet place every day and groom our concrete. And 7 and P.A. Yeah, well said, Scott. We have to maintain the moral substance of our lives by cleansing that and keeping that squared away and not lowering the standard and lowering the standard and lowering the standard until finally open sin is treated with either indifference or enjoyment. And so... You know, when it says here, love does not rejoice in iniquity, I think, too, that goes to how we talk about other people. You know, people love to tell negative stories about other people to others who don't have a need to know or a right to know. They just, you know, you think of all this gossip that goes on. where people are wanting to tell some juicy negative story about somebody who might have done something or even who did do something. And so the idea is that we don't want to traffic in the muck. We don't want to traffic in the filth. We don't want to traffic in the evil. And we don't want to have that as our thought or our center of conversation or as our entertainment. So, yeah, we have to... turn away from that and not let that corrupt and control our lives. All right, let's move on to our next point here. Oh, David, TDI had a follow-up. Go ahead, David. Go ahead, TDI. Thank you, Max. This will be real quick. This rejoicing in iniquity, it happens a lot of times in the church. And I've seen it over the years where you have a couple that are together and a child is brought into the world and it was done in fornication. It wasn't done in marriage, but yet they're going to have a baby shower and they're asking people to be part of it. Again, that would be rejoicing in iniquity. understanding that that child was not born in the right way. It wasn't in the bond of marriage. It was brought forth on a fortification. Again, it was not the child's fault, but the couple. I can't rejoice in that, and I can't be part of that. I think that's just an example that you could use to show we can't rejoice in iniquity. We've got to do things according to God's Word. Ceeble Ceeble 7, Papa Del Dario. Back to you, Max. Yeah, and that reminds me of a famous preacher who encouraged someone to go to a, sort of like a counterfeit wedding, a so-called gay marriage, and celebrate with them in that behavior. So, yeah, we don't participate in things that are displeasing to God. We don't talk about and rejoice in the sins of others. You know, sometimes we've got to deal with other people's sins, but it's always done with a spirit of sorrow and never with a spirit of, boy, I got you now. I can expose this about you. That's just an evil spirit. All right, so love does not rejoice in iniquity, but love does rejoice in the truth. Love rejoices in the truth. Any comments there? Come now. uh kj7 pbte mark go ahead we kind of come together in two places that i ended up dealing with as an engineering manager um i had a special student come who was supposed to be a friend of the firm and they asked me to take him under my wing and he was a new high school student and uh he was an engineering And as I got brought into this process, I found out that this young man was actually a young lady. And, you know, at first I felt, you know, those people had used me and lied to me. And I can't tell you what that does to you when you're placed in that kind of position. So we don't rejoice in those things, but being placed in the middle of that can really deal with you in a very difficult way. and I had to lean on the Lord to help me through that because I was in a place where now I was face-to-face with someone going new ways, like people were doing ladies, and everyone in the firm was telling me that this was the end. So, in addition to the price of the word truth, the reason that that comes into this is that She wanted to be an engineer, so what the Lord told me to do was to start dealing with her about engineering. In the area of the study of that we have to be truthful as engineers. If we fool ourselves with what we are designing or the environment we live in, we can actually create something that's places like very deep, hidden flaws that can kill people. And so it was my job. And she listened to everything I said, she took notes, she was an amazing student. And unfortunately, COVID came along and separated us. But I always still pray for her. Yeah, Mark, you know, we can't participate in the delusions and the lies of those that are around us. And you know, when you're dealing with a transgender person, you don't treat them as though they are a sex that they are really not. And so they may pretend. to be the opposite sex in their transgender delusion. But we can't buy into that lie. We can't participate in that lie. We do not rejoice in lies. We rejoice in the truth. And so I don't use their preferred pronouns, and I don't use their opposite sex name. I refer to them by their birth gender, and I refer to them by their name that they had before they transitioned, and they get furious. But, you know, you just calmly say, I do not live by lies. I live by the truth. And the truth is, is that you are who you were born to be. You are not who you think you have transformed yourself into. And you're right. Those kind of self-delusions and lies don't work in engineering. Engineering operates on the truth, and if you don't follow the truth, you'll end up killing people, as you well said. So, yeah, we've got to be people who are committed to the truth, and the truth is offensive. But our Lord Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. And He called people out of those lifestyles. He did not affirm them in those lifestyles. And so love is glad when truth prevails. We love, cannot tolerate falsehood and lies, and so therefore our commitment is to biblical truth and operating according to reality. All right, other comments, please come here. Mark, KJ7PVT, go ahead. I guess I might add a tag into the story. I felt that I was being made to be complicit in what was happening there. And it was my, you know, the only way that I could act was to... acting away at the suspect. So what David told us to do, we're actually supposed to reach into the fire and fuck them out, and that was my job. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time to bring that to a conclusion, but she knew what was going on and where I stood, so that was probably one of the more difficult things I think I've ever been placed in the middle of. But the Lord was with me, and he... He will help you and aid you and tell you what you're supposed to do, no matter what circumstances you're in. Yeah, Mark, and you're so right. The world wants to pressure us into conformity and complicity with the lies. And, you know, that's where the time comes to... you know, not given to the world and its pressure. And as you said, we've got to pluck that brand out of the burning, and that means describing the condition and declaring the remedy, recognizing it's going to make people really furious. I interact with an individual that is very similar in that status, and I don't use their name or their pronouns. I'm respectful. I treat them with dignity. I treat them with courtesy. I treat them with kindness. But I don't participate in the delusion. So, yeah, Mark, that's a tough thing, especially when you're under all that peer pressure. But, you know, we've got to realize that, first of all, we represent Christ. And if Christianity is about anything, it's about the truth. And it's about following the truth, believing the truth, speaking the truth, living in the realm of truth. which means that we don't live in the realm of darkness where it's built on lies, it's built on self-deception, and it's built upon a collective determination to rebel against the truth of God. And that's a costly thing to follow the Lord in that respect. All right. We are not done with our list, but we are about done with our time. Are there any final comments anybody wants to make? Please come down and call us. PDI Jeff: AK6OK Alright we had a double there, first we'll do Jeff, AK6OK and then we'll go to PDI Jeff, please go first Yeah thanks, good morning again, I'm dealing with this right now with one of my grandkids and he turned out to be 19 years old and he knows more than anybody And lines are starting to be told by him about his family for the past couple of years. And finally yesterday, I sat down and wrote him a letter. And said, "Look, we live in the truth, and spreading lies through this family is unhealthy and it's unbiblical." And I went through quite a few passages as to, he needs to think twice about what he's doing. and that was helpful to write this letter to him. So hopefully he pays attention to this and takes it to heart and acts upon it. He's decided to live with a young lady now all of a sudden and all this stuff, and just has decided to completely go sideways. He's a kid that we thought was going to end up being a pastor. Just ripped the hearts out of grandparents and parents for sure. But we have to stay the course. The Bible is really clear about this stuff. And as a patriarch in the family, I had to stand up. As unpopular as it may end up being. And the parents are behind this and that's all good and everything. a relationship if you do something like this, and if that's the way it rolls, then so be it. Over. - Yeah, amen, Jeff. I'm really proud of you for writing that letter and taking that stand. You know, as much as we love our kids and our grandkids, we love Jesus more. And Jesus says, "If you love son or daughter more than me, "you're not worthy of me." And so we have to stand up for the truth. And that's really how you're, I mean, you are loving your grandson when you tell him the truth. And by rebuking the immoral, wicked choices he's making, You know, in the short term, yeah, you're offending him, but in the long term, you are working on his conscience, you're showing him that God's law is inflexible, and that truth never changes. Morality doesn't change, truth doesn't change, society doesn't get to redefine what is good and what is evil. And that's part of the spiritual warfare that we do. is to uphold what true love is. You know, the sodomites have this philosophy, love is love. That is, whatever I want love to be is what it is. And so they engage in the most destructive, harmful behaviors, and heterosexuals do the same thing with promiscuity and shack-ups and all those kinds of things. That isn't love. It's really harmful. It's really destructive. And we have to stand up to that and call out that for repentance. So, Jeff, well said, well done, and we will pray for your grandson that God causes him to hear the voice of his grandfather. All right, PDI had a follow-up. PDI, go ahead. Thank you, Max. I want to talk about, just real quick, about Satan and the work that he's done in academia, and in our schools, and in the colleges, and of course there's a great revival going on now with the younger people that are starting to turn more to Christ, which I'm so grateful for. But I want to just give an example of one that was in the church, a child, who the teacher had asked at the school that the kids all write a report and write a report on a single person that has affected your life more than anyone else. And then he put their mom or their dad or other people, their grandpa and uncle, etc. But this child wrote about Jesus Christ and how that child had said that Jesus had affected his life so much that he just admired and engaged his life. And for his report, he received an F. because academia did not want to hear about Jesus. But that person was lifted up, and we rejoiced with that child for the truth in which that child wrote. He was very depressed, brought it back to his parents, and said, this is what they gave me, and saw the report in him. But again, it shows that that child did what was right. in the face of all the persecution at our schools. And it brings me to the thought that we need to think about. Our children are being bombarded with this every single day. And if you had really sat back and considered the time that you talk to your children's parents every day, how much time do they get from you? Because a parent goes to work, they come home, they have their food. How much actual time do you sit down and talk to your child? I think when you look at it, you'll be very ashamed. Kilo Kilo 7, Papa Delphi India, back to you, Max. Yeah, well said. You know, the world hates Christianity, and the world pressures us to embrace that hostility. And the point is that we have to recognize that we can't please everyone. And I'm so proud of that young man for taking a stand and saying the truth about the importance of Jesus Christ in his life. and of course the world hates that and you know the thing is that the professor may have given him an F but God gave him an A and God's grading system is the only one that matters in the end and that professor is going to get an F on the day of judgment and be cast into hell so we have to take a longer range view of these things and not fear the face of man you know the Bible says the fear of man brings despair, but whoever puts his trust in the Lord, she'll be safe. And so that's what we've got to operate by. Well, biblical love can't be separated from biblical truth. And I think that's a really important point that Jeff AK6OK made. Biblical love can't be separated from biblical truth. And so when we uphold the truth, even though it's painful for people to hear, that is loving them. because to pull them out of the lies of Satan, remember Satan is a liar, I'm the father of it, any lies of the devil, no lies of the truth. And so when people are living by lies and propagating lies and pressuring you to believe lies, the best way to love them back, to love our enemies, is to proclaim the truth to them and bring them out of those delusions and into the light. All right, we are done. We need to close in prayer. Are there any final prayer requests anybody wants to bring? Please come down. Oscar Kilo, one more last question. Go ahead there, Judge. in writing this what's so interesting is I also had a real sense of joy that as a patriarch I could change history through something like this over yeah amen and when we speak the truth we can change history God can work through that so Jeff I'm glad you had that joy and you know it's always a joyful thing when we proclaim the truth. Love rejoices in the truth. And so, Jeff, as you were saying the truth to this young man in this letter, God was giving you joy because truth always brings joy. Lies always bring sorrow and misery. So, excellent point. All right, any final prayer requests, please come now. Papa, help us. Papa, help us. Go ahead. Yeah, let's remember Steve. I texted with him earlier this morning. He was in Red Bluff. Headed to the Dalles in a pouring rainstorm. So, you know, he's up, I'm sure, at Dunn's Mirror towards Klamath Falls in higher elevations now. So just wrap our traveling mercies around Steve. 7MP, I copy that. Thank you. All right, any other requests? All right, well, let's go to prayer. Our kind and gracious Father, we thank you so much that you so loved the world that you gave your only begotten Son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Thank you, Father, that you always spoke the truth in love to us and you sent us love and truth in the person of Jesus. Help us to be like him. And, Father, help us to have these attributes that we talked about, that we would be appropriate in the way in which we deal with other people, selfless, thoughtful, and yet at the same time never sacrificing the truth for social acceptance, but, Father, upholding the truth. Lord, we have a bunch of needs we want to bring before you today. Lord, we thank in particular Steve, W6YFI, and his son John, who are on the road right now traveling to the Dalles in Oregon. And Lord, I just pray that you give them safety as they travel. Lord, I pray that you give them good fellowship. that Steve would be able to lead his son John into a closer walk with you and to help his priorities to be squared away so that the spiritual comes before the recreational. Lord, just give Steve wisdom and words and give John an open heart and willingness to listen and to receive. Father, we just want to pray today for Howie AI6J. Lord, he had a cholera yesterday. Pray that the results of that will be positive. And Father, his sister Karen had a bone marrow transplant yesterday. We've been praying that she would get one. Well, we hear now that she's got it. And Lord, these next 100 days are going to be extremely precarious because she has no immune system right now. And until that bone marrow grows and starts producing antibodies, Lord, I just pray that you would protect her from any sickness, any disease, and that she would be able to have a good recovery. But, Lord, we pray for Karen's salvation. Lord, we just ask that you would cause this time of isolation. away from the world to cause her heart to be turned toward you. And so, Father, bring conviction on Karen and bring conversion to her heart. Father, we continue to pray for our KJ7QQH's friend, Ginny. We pray for her recovery from her hip replacement, Lord. I know how tough that is to be able to rehabilitate through something like that. And, Lord, we just pray that soon that Al and Jerry would be able to visit with Jenny and encourage her in the things of God. And, Lord, she would learn to walk again and walk well. Lord, we just want to pray for Sandy, W7SAB, that she'd be able to get an appointment for her hip replacement sooner rather than later. Father, we just pray for Glenn, KJ7UMW, who needs to manage his eye drops. over the process of the time of each day in a way that's most beneficial to the healing of his eyes after his lens replacement. Lord, we thank you for his doctor, Dr. Graben, who is a believer in Christ. And Father, as Dr. Graben moves on and moves away, Father, may you bless him in his ministry of being an eye doctor and also his ministry as a Christian. And Father, wherever you lead him, whatever you have him to do, Lord, may he know your good hand on him. in his future. Father, we just want to pray for George K2KJX, if you give him wisdom in preparing for his extra license. And Father, I pray that he would just be able to wrap his brain around all the things that are involved in preparing for, understanding the material, and then being able to do well on his exam. Lord, we just want to pray for Jeff, AK6OK's grandson. Father, here's a young man who was raised in a Christian home and showed some promise. as being a man of God. And yet, Lord, he has now turned 19, turned away from the things of God, living in fornication with his girlfriend. And Father Jeff has written him a letter. Father, I just pray that that letter would be effective in awakening him, convicting him, illuminating him and turning him away from his bad choices, his sinful choices that he's making. And Father, may he repent. May he return to Christ. May he become humble. And Father, may he walk in your steps. Just help Jeff to continue to be strong. and yet compassionate, firm in stating the truth, and yet ready to help as this boy turns from his sin and turns to Christ. Father, just give Jeff's words great weight in the mind and the heart of his grandson. Father, we also want to pray today for Steve, W6YSI's daughter, Lisa Medina, who continues to suffer from upper back and neck pains. And Father, thank you for work at the Crisis Pregnancy Center. I pray that she would be an instrument in your hand to turn many away from abortion and to having their babies. And Father, may they make better choices in the future than they did in the past as a result of Lisa's ministry and influence in their lives. Father, we just continue to pray for Keisha, that she would become saved. Father, we understand her liver is doing a little better. Thankful for that. But Lord, she needs salvation. And Lord, I just pray that you would use will and Martha Fay in her life, and that she would be able to hear the gospel and be converted by it. Father, we also want to pray for Glenn KJ7UMW and his wife Vicki. Lord, they have chronic pain. I pray that you would heal them of that and give them peace in their bodies. Father, we just want to pray today for Ed's ex-ex-wage's niece Ruth and her three children, Macy and Mika and McCade. Father, they all have health issues. Lord, I pray that you would be pleased to heal them. I pray that you would be pleased to give the doctors wisdom in knowing the best course of action in dealing with the problems that they have. Father, we pray for their dad, Thomas, that you would provide him with a job. And Father, may that family be pulled together around Jesus Christ and not pulled apart by all the challenges that face them, both by way of employment and by way of health. Father, we pray for our brother, Eldon, KF7FIA, for his vaccine. Lord, I pray that you would give him patience and peace. and healing, Father, that he would know relief and mobility. Lord, we just want to pray for Gary, a W6G LB who has stage 4 cancer. Lord, he's receiving immunotherapy treatments now. We pray that those would be effective. Thank you, Father, that he doesn't need surgery or chemotherapy or radiation. Lord, I just pray that his own immune system would be able to attack this cancer and destroy it. Father, we just pray for our brother Mike, W7TWO. And Lord, he's surrounded by a lot of challenges. His nephew Dale died. And Dale's mom, Barbara, needs salvation. Father, I just pray that through Dale's death, Barbara would think about her own. And that, Lord, you would be pleased to give Mike some patience and wisdom and grace in dealing with Barbara. And Lord, I pray that Barbara would be broken and humble and convicted and converted through faith in Jesus Christ. Lord, we do pray for Dale's brother, Darrell, that he would fully recover from his heart surgery. And that, Lord, he would be a witness to his mom as well. And now, Lord, we just want to pray for our nation. Father, there's much wickedness in high places in our nation. that Satan, Father, seems to be running amok and causing endless amounts of chaos and lies and murders and destruction. Father, rebuke Satan. And Lord, I pray that you would raise up men of God to lead this nation who are firm in their purpose and who can expose the evil that is being perpetrated. And that, Lord, you would open the eyes of the people in our nation. and that you would turn them from the lies that are so saturating our culture and that they would recognize and embrace the truth of the gospel and of reality and of what constitutes good governance of a nation. Lord, give our leaders who are walking in the paths of righteousness strength. And Father, may they not be beat down or pushed back or shut up, by the voices of evil. Lord, just bring proper law enforcement to our nation, and Father, proper respect for that law enforcement among the population. And now, Father, we just want to thank you for your goodness, your mercy, and your grace. But to each one of us, thank you for the gift of your Son, Jesus Christ, in whom we trust for the forgiveness of our sins and our reconciliation with you. Father, be pleased to send us each forward into this day walking in victory, walking in obedience, walking in joy. walking in a spirit of worship, and then giving out witness, Father, as opportunities come. Father, we pray these things in Jesus' name. Amen. All right, this is WB7MX, Net Control for the West Coast Bible Study. We want to thank all the stations who checked in this morning, as well as those who stepped by to give us a clear operating frequency. We meet here seven days a week at 6 a.m. in order to read the scriptures, understand their meaning, message, and application, and then to pray for grace and mercy to be able to live out what we learn, and for God to meet the needs of those that are in our circle of fellowship. I'll be returning this frequency now to regular amateur use. This is WB7MAX. I'll be clear and standing by. 5 Yankee. Okay, I had a double there. 5 Yankee, go ahead first. Where do basketball players go when they need a new uniform? Where do who go when they need a new uniform? Basketball players. Okay, where do basketball players go when they need a new uniform? I don't have a clue. To the store? New Jersey. They go to New Jersey. That's good, Pac. I like that. That's funny. Alright, real good. There was another station and another station coming out. Yeah, Max, I just wanted to say thank you again for all your commentary and for hosting the NAD booth, being neck control, and for the great Bible study. I apologize. I had a little too much coffee this morning, so I have more comments than I probably should have made this morning, but... I want to thank you and also that W7CX Dave, what a blessing he is. He was on the phone with me for about an hour and got me all fixed up on my radio. And now it's working just the best it's ever happened since I bought this thing. And actually since I became a ham. So he's awesome. And I really appreciate him. He's going to work with me some more to get better signal within a few years down the road. So anyway, so grateful and so thankful. I appreciate all you do. 73 is my friend. 80707, Papa Delta, India. Well, praise the Lord, David. Praise the Lord. That's great. Yeah, your audio is so much easier to understand now, so whatever the changes were, those are wonderful. Yep, Dave's a good brother, and looking forward to having him back one of these days so we can have him work on your antenna and also engage in some face-to-face fellowship. So, Whiskey 7, Charlie X-Ray, if you're listening, love you, brother, and glad you guys are here. Okay, WB7MAX is clear and standing by. Mike, W7TW, go ahead. Thank you, Max, for all the prayers. and some other things in the air. It's kind of tough after a while. And it's kind of like a beater dam. Things just kind of get softened up and backed up, and pretty soon you get some water that's burning toward the lower water. So we also are burning that dam loose today. The water is back in the water. We're just going to see how it goes. Well, praise the Lord for that, Mike. Sometimes things pile up, and they've got to be dismembered one by one. And I'm glad that God is ministering to you and helping you and solving your problems. You know, it says in 1 Peter 5, cast all your burdens upon him because he cares for you. And, you know, there's just too much there for us to carry by ourselves. But Jesus carries the heavy end of the cross for us. And so anyway, Mike, thanks for the good report and glad that God's helping. And this Bible study is a blessing and will continue to hold you in your situation up before the Lord because I know you've got a lot on your plate. My heart goes out to you, brother, and I want you to know that our arms are around you and we're walking with you and bearing the burdens alongside you as best we know how. So I love you, brother, and thanks for the report. WB7 to Max. Thank you, that was a good day, almost a good day, W7TWOB. Right, W7TWO, 7-3 to you, WB7MX is clear and standing by. Uh, BDI. Uh, Dave, KJ7BDI, go ahead. Yeah, I'm just trying to check my signal strength here. And I have a-- he helped me with the-- whatchamacallit-- the SDR, so I can see where my signal strength is going compared to yours and how it's coming across. Man, yours is way up there. You're doing so good on your signal strength. And so it's just really interesting to see how this works. He's helped me a lot with a lot of things, but once I get back to Genetix, I should be right up there and where I need to be. But again, thanks again, and you have a blessed day, and I'm going to go ahead and go QTH 73. Take care. Tito Tito 7, Papa Joe, see you in a year. Alright, real good David. Yeah, you are 5 by 5 over S9. I've never seen your signal that strong. So your voice is a 5 and you are 5 over S9. So great signal. Whatever you got going, man, is it ever working well. Of course, we got a nice band today too, but anything, anyway, things are going well. Alright, 73 to you, Dave, KK7PDI, WB7MX, clearance, standing by. KM5S Will, Keenewake 5H, go ahead Yeah, I don't know if Dave can hear me, but if he goes onto our webpage and then clicks on the launch and SDR, he'll have a good display of his signal KM5S Yeah, okay, so David, KT7 PDI, did you hear Will, Keelan Lake Side Foxtrot? He did hear you. He said to go to Montana SDR. Yeah, Montana SDR, yeah, apparently I wasn't real clear on what Will was saying. Will, go ahead and talk again. I'm listening to you on the Utah SDR now. Yeah, he goes to our webpage and then clicks on, he has to log in and then clicks on the Montana SDR, click on the link, then the Montana SDR. He'll have a good display that shows his signal strength and you'll see how it compares. Okay, I'm playing this. Yeah, copy that, Will. Okay, I will tell him, David, KK7PDI, are you still in the air? Yeah, I'm here, Max. Okay, good. So, Will, KM5F said that if you go to the Montana SDR, he says you've got to log in, but if you go there, you'll be able to see the signal strength of your transmission really well there. So, Will, KM5F just wanted to pass that information on to you. Go ahead, David. Thank you, Max. Yeah, hey, Will, thank you very much for that information. I will do that, yes, check that out, yes, so thank you so much, I appreciate your advice to do that, I will definitely check it out, right now I got some things to do, but I will do that, especially tomorrow, so thank you so much, Will, you have a blessed day, my friend, QQ75, Adele Davia. AM5S, did you copy David's transmission, over? Yes, AM5S, yes, I copy, 73. All right, real good. Really appreciate the way you guys help each other out. That is a huge blessing, not only with the radio, but also with your walk with the Lord. All right, WB7MAX is standing by. Anybody want to talk, come on ahead. And I'm clear in QRT. I'll see you guys tomorrow. 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