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Will, QMW 5F, good morning, how are you doing brother? I'm doing okay, just going to wake up a little bit, but no new prayer requests, taking a little trip on Thursday and Friday this week, can you find us? Okay, cop, you're taking a little trip on Thursday and Friday of this week, so we'll pray that that goes well and that you have a safe journey wherever you're going and back to where you live, so alright, that is Will, QMW 5F, real good Will, thanks for that. Alright, other check-ins, please come down. Doing fine, got family visiting from Minnesota coming in today. We're praying for safe travel for them. That's where they help themselves, K7NEB. Alright, so Keith, K7NEB has family coming in today from far away, and so we're praying for safe travel for them. Also, that's Keith, K7NEB, safe travels for his family who are coming to visit today. Copy there, Al. Good. Thank you, Al. Appreciate that. All right, any other check-ins this morning, please come down to your call list. I got my coffee back. All right, Jeff, AK6OK actually emerged out of his cocoon into the land of the living and is now a beautiful butterfly sitting there drawing his wings on the branch. All right, Jeff, we're glad that you came out into the open now that you've been fortified with your cup of coffee. All right, any other check-ins? Wow. Thank you. Alright, WV7MAX here, neck control for the west coast, follow the study, we continue to look for check-ins, please come down with your call sign. Alright, it is 6 o'clock. It is time for us to get started. One last call for Roger, WB7VZL. Roger, are you out there? started. And we are in 1 Corinthians chapter 10. We are in a long section where Paul in chapter 8 and chapter 9 and chapter 10 is addressing this issue of the management of our Christian liberty and principles that pertain to that. And basically, the whole structure of this passage is think about the impact of your actions on other people. And you know, when I was in Bible school, one of the things that they really drilled into our head was, these are testimonies. people will see that selflessness, that care and concern for others, that willingness to give, to meet the needs of others, and to put others ahead of ourselves. And really, that's what our Lord Jesus did for us, didn't he? He had, if you will, the liberty, the Christian liberty, the divine liberty, to stay in heaven. He could have stayed in heaven, stayed on his throne. He was under no obligation to come and save us, but he chose to lay aside... his own rights, privileges, and prerogatives to come down to this earth thinking of others first, laying down his life for them, giving up his rights for the benefit of others. And so that's really the whole ethical power that lies behind the Christian social behavior that we have towards others. He laid down his life for us. We lay down our lives for others. He sacrificed his rights for us. we sacrifice our rights for others. And so Paul gives us then this extended explanation of what Christian liberty is, what it isn't, and then how it's to be exercised in private when we're by ourselves, and then in public when we are around other folks. So that's what we're going to be dealing with here in this last half of 1 Corinthians chapter 10. So we are going to read that, but before we do... We want to open our time together in prayer today. And so, Jeff, AK6OK, could you please open in prayer for us today? I would love to, Max, and thank you. Let's pray. Lord, thank you so much for this roundtable, this group of guys who come in here every morning, so dedicated. And I pray that we'll understand everything we're going to talk about today in 1 Corinthians 10. that it will make sense to us, and that we'll be blessed, and that we'll bless others as a result of it. Lord, thank you so much in your precious name. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much for that. I really appreciate that prayer, Jeff. All right, so we're going to ask George K2KJX to read for us. George, please read to us 1 Corinthians 10, verses 14 through 33. Go ahead there, George. Roger, Roger. K2KJX. Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God. And I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. Sorry, I had to see if I was SWR. Asking no question for conscious sake, but if anyone says to you this was offered to idols, do not eat for the sake of the one who told you. And for conscious sake, for the earth is the Lord's and all its fullness. or to the Greeks or to the church of God, just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved. All right, George, great reading. Thank you for that. Much appreciated. All right, we have kind of a long section here, but it all deals with the same issue. All right, any comments on this section? Please come down to the call, sir. - T-I-A-K-6-O-K. - All right, AK-6-O-K, Jeff, go ahead. - We're reading a book right now, My Wife and I Don't Let the Enemy Sit at Your Table by Louis Giglio, and boy, this is exactly what it's talking about. It's talking about you are sitting across the table from the mighty God, and in the presence of nine enemies, the presence of everything else, and why would you allow the enemy to sit at your table? You need to fix your eyes on God. And we participate in the worship of the true God through the Lord's Supper, which is the spiritual sacrifice that we engage in in our day. Now, it's a symbolic sacrifice. We don't re-sacrifice the Lord Jesus. The bread and the wine are and remain symbols of the broken body and the shed blood of the Lord Jesus. Nevertheless. We have a very real communion with Christ in our spirits and in our hearts as we sit at the Lord's Supper. Just like we have a very real communion with Jesus when we hear the preaching of the Word and we interact with what's being said. And so the question is, whose table are we at and who's sitting at the table? And so Paul addresses that in the early part of this chapter. And he's saying, "Don't sit at the table of demons and don't have demons at your table. You've got to make up your mind. Are you part of the kingdom of light or are you part of the kingdom of darkness? Who are you representing here by your actions and by your words?" So great comment there, Jeff. Thank you for that. All right, other comments, please, from them. People, people, seven, Papa Delta, media. Okay, there is David, KK7 PDI. David, go ahead. Yeah, I appreciate the comments by Jeff there, and also your comments there, Max. They're so appointed. I appreciate how you are teaching me to that. But I like the fact that he talks about the Lord's suffering and the Temple Blessing, and he talks about what we have in common, the communion with the body of Christ that we partake of, and then the contract. And so I liken it, I'm going to use the sound analysis here, to a vehicle. When you get inside of a car, you have to depart. You either drive forward or you can drive backwards. He's asking us to drive forward, and what he's showing us is that there's no neutrality. in Christ. You can't stay neutral here. You're either going to go forward or you're going to go backward. But he's encouraging us to go forward. People, people, seven, Papa Delphi, and back to you, Max. Yeah, great analogy there, Dave. Really appreciate that. Yeah, there's no neutrality. We're either going toward Christ or we're going away from Christ. And what he's saying here is that we need to go toward the Lord Jesus. You know, Paul has been teaching us, and we saw the teaching clear back in chapter 8, that there is no idols, right? You know, he said in chapter 8, in verse 4 and 5, as concerning, therefore, the eating of those things which are offered in sacrifice to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other god but one. For though there be those that are called gods, whether in heaven and earth, verse 6, but to us there is but one God. And so we know that all of these false gods that these idol worshipers worship don't even exist. And yet, Paul is saying that if we go into their temple, and if we partake of their meals, just like we go into the New Covenant temple, which is the local church, and we eat of our meal, which is the Lord's Supper, he says, while those gods don't exist, demons do exist. And there is a kingdom of darkness, and it's Satan and his demons. And so while we may not be worshipping a Buddha or Allah or some other pagan god, if we're participating in their church services and in their religious activities, we're actually worshipping the demons that they do, in fact, represent. And so he's saying here, be very careful. as David said, toward the Lord Jesus, towards His worship, towards His church, towards His communion service, and go away from any participation in the idol temples or the idol sacrifices or the idol worship. Even though their gods don't exist, demons do exist. And they de facto wind up worshiping demons when they do not worship the true and the living God. So, David, thanks for that. Yeah, when we get in a car, we're either going forward or in reverse. There is no neutral. All right, other comments, please come down. Alright, the net would like to acknowledge Don AC7KW. Don, see you there on the Utah SCR. And also Mark, W7UAR. Mark, good to see you there on Utah as well. Okay, any further comments about our passage? Come down with your call soon. KJ7PVT. Okay, I've got Mark. KJ7PVT. Go ahead, Mark. Thanks, Max. This also begins to point out the very tricky way that people had to access and um, the road. And the people here in St. Maureen were living in a time in amongst the people where this road, and some food estates, they would have to navigate very carefully. Uh, because their friends, many of them were coming out of Bible worship, many of them, this was probably the only place you could buy food. And so what he's saying here is that, um, first off, let's back up, there are These idols are not real, they're just nothing. And we know who owns this planet, and we know the freedom we have. So what he's doing with the other side of his argument here is he's giving people enough. He's giving people the courage to be able to go out and buy something so they can eat, so they're not living in fear. So that's the other piece of it that we can, we certainly can say. into the first half of it, but then he's also given you the ability to gain confidence in who you are and that you can eat what you need to eat. My goodness, do that. But he also gives an explanation here. If you're called over to a friend's house and you don't walk in there with a bunch of questions, or today's thing, before I go over there, I'm going to ask you what your philosophies are on everything that's related. that is going to bother me. He is saying, "Walk in who you are. You are a child of the king, and the person who owns you owns the planet." So he is giving them a sense of how they're going to take him. And then he gives them a caution that if it turns out that you're no fault of your own, that this has been an opportunity. Then at the same time, let them see the differences there. - Yeah, Mark, good comment. Thank you for that. Yeah, we can move forward with confidence and not be afraid of idols or their temples or any of their spiritual influences, we can be bold. And, you know, you see that where missionaries, for example, go into jungle cultures where the people are just living in abject fear of this god and that god and the other god. And the Christian missionaries fail in there, and they're not the slightest bit worried about those gods. because they don't even exist, right? And yet, you know, there has to be an awareness of how other people feel about these situations and real wisdom in dealing with them. So both confidence and caution, those two watchwords, I think, are very important. So, Mark, you make a good point that Paul was saying to these folks, "By all means, get the food you need. Go in the marketplace, buy the food, eat the food, meet your needs." But on the other hand, recognize that other people have different perspectives and when you're around them think about the impact of your actions on them. Mark made the point that when you go over to someone else's house you don't ask a bunch of questions first. What are all your political views, you know, and what do you think about this and that? He says, no, just go. Enjoy the company. As conversation comes up, you know, you navigate through it, but you don't have to pre-check out everything before you go into a situation. You just go in there with the confidence that you're a Christian, Christ is with you, you have His Spirit, you have His Word, and you can be bold. And you can be the one who is not afraid, because really there's nothing to fear. When we fear the Lord, that casts out all other fear. Thank you, Mark. I hope that I represented what you had to say properly. Okay, back to you there, Mark. KJ7 PBT, any further comments? Go ahead. Yeah, thank you, Max. No further comments. You did a really nice job. I try to put myself in your place. How would I remember everything that somebody says? And you're doing a fantastic job. Great, great job. You did a fantastic job. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, Mark, thanks for that. And the reason why I often repeat what other people say is because there's some folks that can't hear like I can hear. And so they've expressed to me many times thanks for repeating that because I'm able to hear you, but perhaps not the station that's speaking. We do have some strong stations that everybody can hear, and I generally don't repeat what they say like I do some of the weaker stations. So anyway, that's my justification for going over what other people have already said. It's not to be redundant. It's not because they didn't say it really well. I just want to be sure everybody hears these excellent points. that Mark and others make as well. Okay. Any other comments on this section or anything in it, please come down to the call sign. Are there any late check-ins? Okay, I heard Roger, WB7VZO. Good morning, Roger. How are you doing? Well, I've been here. Just didn't make it. I just was tardy, I guess. But I'm particularly interested in Versus 23. So that appeals to me through all this maze. And another complication when we're going through Corinthians is that we don't have the letter that they wrote to Paul. Oh, how we could have wished. So we're assuming a lot. We only have one side of the conversation. However rich it is, we don't have the letter they sent, however. Yeah, well said, Roger. We don't have the letter that they sent to Paul. He references it back in chapter 7 and verse 1. And so we have to infer what the questions were by the answers that are given. But what we do have is what God wanted us to have, and it's sufficient for us to figure out the principles. And I think that's the thing. I mean, like when was the last time you had to worry about eating meat offered to idols in front of other people? I bet none of you have ever run into that. I certainly never have. And so it's easy just to go over this passage and say, well, that doesn't apply to me. And what we have to do is step back and look at the principles behind the particular instructions that are given and recognize those principles do apply to us in a wide variety of ways. And we do that, as you said, with the Old Testament. You know, there's a lot in there that doesn't directly apply to us, but there's principles there that certainly do apply to us. He's saying everything within the realm of Christian liberty is permissible, okay, but not all of those things that are permissible are helpful in the situation we're in, given the people we are, given the particular challenges that we face in our circumstances. And so the question is, does the exercise of this Christian liberty And on top of that, the sin that's so easily beset us, let us run that race with patience, looking unto Jesus. So there's weights, you know, which are not necessarily wrong, but they're holding you back. Let those things go. Others may be able to do those things and manage them, but maybe they have too strong of a hold on you, and you've got to recognize that this is creating an imbalance in my life. Even though this, the thing, is not a sin, It's kind of got a hold of me, and it's keeping me from doing other things that I need to be doing. So there's the principle of expediency. And then as Roger said, the principle of edification there in verse 24. How is this exercise of my Christian liberty going to impact other people? So he says, "Let no man seek his own," in verse 24, but every man's another's blessing, okay, or advantage. So, number one, is this Christian liberty expedient for me? Please go ahead. Yeah, I think if we turn, look at that, excuse me, the Philippian letter in chapter 2, verse 3 and 4. It kind of sums it up real well, I think, there, Mac, out of the NSAB. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind, regard one another as more important than yourselves. Do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. And I think that puts a nice framework around what we've been sharing this morning in 1 Corinthians 10. And so then, Pierre. Yeah, Scott, really well said. Thanks for pointing out that passage of Philippians 2, 3, and 4 there. Such important concepts there. And Paul echoes those over and over and over again. And, in fact, that's what he does here. You know, when you look at these last three verses of our chapter, verses 31, 32, and 33, he says, Whether, therefore, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it in such a way that it brings glory to God. Verse 32, don't give any offense to any category of person, the Jew, the Gentile, or the Christians, the Church of God. And then there's that concept right there in verse 33 you're talking about, that concept of selflessness. Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking my own advantage, but the advantage of others, what? That they may be saved. So our grand concern is not how much can I exercise my Christian liberty. My grand concern is what can I do to see other folks saved? And if that involves some exercise of Christian liberty so you can be with them, great. If that involves some restraint of Christian liberty because they have prejudice against certain things, Well, then that's great too. So the whole idea there is exactly what Scott's talking about, thinking of others. We think of God. Does this bring glory to him? Does this display his attributes before the world? Does this declare his character and his works and his gospel and his son? And then what impact does this have on others? Does it draw them closer to salvation, or does it drive them away from salvation? And those are the big principles that lie behind this whole issue of Christian liberty, and whether you exercise it and whether you don't, and how you use your understanding of this grand doctrine. All right, other comments, please come out. - BDI. PDI, David, go ahead. Yeah, Max, I appreciate your comments there in regards to our Christian liberties. I always remember, as folded to what he said, with regards, I became all things to all peoples, and I might do it now. And I look at that as far as the Christian liberties that we have, in Christ and as a Christian as well. When I'm speaking to other brothers and sisters in Christ, their knowledge base may not be where it should be at this point, or maybe just because they're newer Christians, they're just growing in the knowledge of Christ. I'm just going to talk to them in such a way that would intimidate them and talk about stuff they don't understand. I've got to go there with them where they're at. I want to you know, when Paul said that, Jesus, you know, as well, he met with them. I've got to meet them where they're at in their knowledge. If them go from there, I'm not going to be, I don't want to be standoffish. I don't want to sound like I'm more enlightened than they are. I don't need to do that either. I just need to meet them where they're at and help to guide them and give up my liberties that I have or whatever it might be and meet them where they're at. And that goes for, you know, of course, they're talking about beef here. If I have somebody over the house that has a certain diet and they can't eat other items, I need to be mindful of that. I'm not going to serve something that I know that they cannot eat. And, well, you know, because you can't eat it, well, that's just tough. You know, I've got to be mindful of all these things when I'm dealing with my brothers and leaders that are in their beliefs. I just want to help them bring them to a better understanding. And so that takes a lot of patience and time, and it takes a lifetime, actually, to work out all these things. People say that Papa Delphi is a vacuum. Yeah, well said, David. Well said. Thank you for that. You know, it's just a matter of thinking of others and where are they at and how can I meet their needs and make them feel comfortable, make them feel loved, make them feel understood, make them feel accepted, and make them feel like their choices are okay. and I don't need to impose mine on them when it revolves around these matters of indifference. So good summary there. The net would like to acknowledge Mike at W7TWO. Good morning, Mike, and also JRK6LBP. Good morning, JR. And then we've got DaveKE7WKI. They all showed up on SDRs. Thank you all for being there. Appreciate you. See you, and are glad that you joined us. Okay, any other comments on our passage? Please come down to the call for us. Thank you. There's Kevin, KB7XX, Kevin go ahead. Hey good morning Max and the group, just checking in, nothing at this point, good comments at leverage and more. Okay good, just checking in, so we got you there Kevin, appreciate that, yep we are at 1 Corinthians 10 verses 14 to 33. So the last half of 1 Corinthians 10 there, Kevin. Thanks for checking in. Really appreciate that. Okay, so the bottom line is here is that Paul is talking about our interaction with others in the realm of Christian liberty, our interaction with others who worship false gods, and our interaction with others in terms of what course of action would be the most likely, humanly speaking, to see them come to saving faith in Jesus. And then, of course, as Mark at KJ7PBT brought out, exercise our liberty so that our needs can be met. He's saying, you know, go in the marketplace and buy meat with confidence so that we can meet our needs for calories. So there's a number of principles here that Paul is juggling and balancing and, But what it does mean is that in the marketplace, when there is food that's been offered to idols previously and now it's being sold in the marketplace, we can go ahead and eat that. So eat that meat that was sacrificed to idols at home, but don't you dare go into the temple and eat it there, because that will be seen, in spite of the intentions of your heart, that will be seen as an act of worship. that they may be saved. And I think that, fortunately, we have the example of our Lord who crossed boundaries all the time for the sake of salvation, especially when people were considered unclean. So, of course, the ultimate was... Yeah, he sure is. And, you know, he wanted to obey all that the law required, but he wasn't going to demand anything more than what the law required. And so he was fighting against legalism on the one hand, which is adding laws to God's law that aren't required by God. And on the other hand, he was fighting against libertinism, which says, oh, you know, we don't have to follow God's actual laws at all. We need to conclude our study and go to prayer. Are there any final prayer requests that anybody wants to bring to our attention before Al, KJ7QQH, leads us in prayer? Please come down with your prayer request. All right, Al, KJ7QQH, please go ahead and close in prayer for us. Not changing clues yet. Frank forgets to leave for that, that dive was a divided situation. We looked up Will AM5F, his family, who were at St. Peps. We decided to be traveling, so we stayed in Friday. So we asked for travel mercy for help. for his and Zondia's health issues and for his wife, Dani. We pray for the remission of her multiple sclerosis. We also lift up our brother Mike at W7TWO for Mike's lower back pain, his temporal arthritis that has returned, and we pray for healing for that and for the wisdom and the proper medication to be used to treat that. and pray for his message and just be part of that and watch him live. So it just kind of conflicts with the Bible study, but I've been really looking forward to this. It's a rare opportunity to speak at such a lectureship. Tebow was there last year and others. Very, very prominent people that meet the bar. Okay, real good. So Mark KJ7PVT, George K2KJX said he tried to get on the work net, but it was rough for him. He'll try to get on it again. And maybe you guys can connect there. Over to you there, Mark. I hear that. Thanks for the relay. There's no pressure at all. I just wanted to know. Just coming out of the coastline. Brian KJ7 PWM, go ahead. but it's quite a bit of static. So anyway, you are readable, but the voice quality is probably about a 3.5, maybe a 4 at times. So you are readable, but it's a rough signal there, Brian. Go ahead. This is WB7MX, I'll be clearing QRT. Today is my wife's birthday. . *Captions by Project readOn* you you